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Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

MrV, are you on a mission from God, I ask you?:)

If so, present your credentials, please.:)

I will not ask you again.:)


Notice the perfect alignement of the smilies, it's an omen.
 
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aps said:
Wow. Amazing. Am I surprised that this bozo decides what the bill says based on the internet? Nope.
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Are you surprised he thinks outrageous and obviously wrong things about it too?

I'm not.

He actually believes all hospices will be closed. That would be insane - so insane that he really ought to check to make sure it's true. But he didn't.

Kind of like "death panels." Absurd. People will believe anything.
 
Dr_Patrick said:
I don't think anyone is saying that this guy doesn't have the right to do this. He absolutely does. It is his way of protesting. Good for him.

However, it does come off as incredibly petty and unprofessional. It's certainly not going to help his business. Politics do have a place in life, but one really should avoid mixing it with the professional/business side of things. Just because one has different political beliefs doesn't mean they are somehow a lesser human being and not worthy of the same treatment as everyone else. I'm sure he was hoping this sign would have a huge impact with people as if he's making some huge bold and profound statement. Frankly, if I saw that sign in any business window, I would just chuckle to myself and roll my eyes.

Plus, it's most likely true that if the situation were reversed and this doctor were expressing a similar sort of liberal agenda that he would be not getting the same amount of support from people on the right about it. People are all about applauding this kind of stuff when it falls in line with their personal views.
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The amount of business he loses from Obama-supporters will be offset by the extra business he gets from Obama-haters.
 
Gander said:
The amount of business he loses from Obama-supporters will be offset by the extra business he gets from Obama-haters.
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Obama-haters are all cancelling their health insurance though to protest, or because they think it will be free if they do. So that's gonna be a problem.
 
misterman said:
Are you surprised he thinks outrageous and obviously wrong things about it too?

I'm not.

He actually believes all hospices will be closed. That would be insane - so insane that he really ought to check to make sure it's true. But he didn't.

Kind of like "death panels." Absurd. People will believe anything.
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He has just shown what an incompetent person he is. But he is in a very conservative area, so my guess is his fellow cons will think he's brilliant (and as stated by Jon Stewart--they'll let him touch their penises and vaginas).
 
Gander said:
The amount of business he loses from Obama-supporters will be offset by the extra business he gets from Obama-haters.
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Well, that's a very simple minded assumption, considering he is violating the spirit of equality that this great country was founded on.:roll:
 
LiberalAvenger said:
Well, that's a very simple minded assumption, considering he is violating the spirit of equality that this great country was founded on.:roll:
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Cons don't care about that. They just care that someone is speaking out against Obama.
 
Dezaad said:
I had the feeling that most professionals would feel this way, but I don't have anyone in the medical field to ask who is a conservative, which is who I would be most interested in hearing from. I am glad to see that you seem to be able to provide it.

Do we know of any MDs of the conservative persuasion who participate here on the forum?
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Some doctors will just quit altogether, and not say anything about it. They'll retire or find another job and then both Republicans and Democrats will have to find care elsewhere. At least this guy is still practicing medicine; the others will just say "screw it, I'm not treating ANYONE."
 
Dr_Patrick said:
Well, while I do agree that our capitalist system is based on profit, it doesn't sit too well with me that people are making profits off of the misfortunes of others through the medical system. I'm not saying I agree with Obama's health care plan. I'm just saying that perhaps if the medical system was more about making people better and less about making a profit, it wouldn't bother me as much. However, that is clearly not the case. Doctors across the country charge people absurd amounts of money just so that they can feel better or keep in good health. There are plenty of businesses that benefit from being for-profit businesses and I applaud that. However, I don't think it's right to do that in the medical field. It's just my opinion.
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This is just an unrealistic viewpoint to have. Becoming a medical doctor is grueling work that takes at least eight years of your life to achieve. Hoping that people will undergo this ordeal out of altruism is just naive.
 
Gander said:
This is just an unrealistic viewpoint to have. Becoming a medical doctor is grueling work that takes at least eight years of your life to achieve. Hoping that people will undergo this ordeal out of altruism is just naive.
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Most of the caregivers I have known are altruistic. You must have not been sick for a while. The doctors I have known in my life let their secretaries handle the business part so it sounds like this doctor is just a money grubbing bean counter.
 
TurtleDude said:
you are right, people who still have student loads to pay off or haven't been around a while aren't going to start selling ladies dresses or handguns or cars but the people who have been around a while are able to retire
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My uncle is a wealthy doctor who is considering retiring and just selling exotic lizards, no joke.
 
Gander said:
This is just an unrealistic viewpoint to have. Becoming a medical doctor is grueling work that takes at least eight years of your life to achieve. Hoping that people will undergo this ordeal out of altruism is just naive.
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Hoping people will do it solely out of altruism is naive. In the helping professions, for most, there is certainly an altruistic quality, or, chances are, they wouldn't be going into the field.
 
LiberalAvenger said:
Most of the caregivers I have known are altruistic. You must have not been sick for a while. The doctors I have known in my life let their secretaries handle the business part so it sounds like this doctor is just a money grubbing bean counter.
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Wanting to earn a good salary does not preclude someone from being altruistic; altruism is a spectrum, not a light switch. But this fails to address my point, that many physicians are motivated to earn a good living. Expecting them to endure medical school out of pure altruism is just a fantasy.
 
Gander said:
Wanting to earn a good salary does not preclude someone from being altruistic; altruism is a spectrum, not a light switch. But this fails to address my point, that many physicians are motivated to earn a good living. Expecting them to endure medical school out of pure altruism is just a fantasy.
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You're right. It does fall on a spectrum. For some the altruistic aspect is more important than the money to a varying degree. To others, to a varying degree, the opposite is true.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
Hoping people will do it solely out of altruism is naive. In the helping professions, for most, there is certainly an altruistic quality, or, chances are, they wouldn't be going into the field.
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The majority of people give substantial consideration to the amount of money they will make in their chosen profession. Eventually, considerations of salary will outweigh their desire to help people. It's just human nature.
 
Gander said:
The majority of people give substantial consideration to the amount of money they will make in their chosen profession. Eventually, considerations of salary will outweigh their desire to help people. It's just human nature.
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I disagree. I work in the field. It varies from person to person. Some will choose to work at a position that earns them less money because of their altruistic nature.
 
Gander said:
Wanting to earn a good salary does not preclude someone from being altruistic; altruism is a spectrum, not a light switch. But this fails to address my point, that many physicians are motivated to earn a good living. Expecting them to endure medical school out of pure altruism is just a fantasy.
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Doctors without borders work for peanuts in dangerous countries. There are hundreds of doctors who work cheap at charity clinics. Money is not everything to some people.

Rush limbaugh would probably agree with you and rachael maddow would probably agree with me. That's what makes this country great.:mrgreen:
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
I disagree. I work in the field. It varies from person to person. Some will choose to work at a position that earns them less money because of their altruistic nature.
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I agree, but I would contend that these types are not in the majority. Most people are just out to earn a living, whether they're a doctor, a teacher, or a fry cook. Once physicians feel they aren't earning a salary commensurate with their skill set, they will start exiting the field in large numbers, and many potential physicians won't even bother going to medical school. Who'd want to endure four years of intensive training only to make less than you're worth while navigating a labyrinthine system of government bureaucracies? Oh, and don't forget the lawsuits!
 
LiberalAvenger said:
Doctors without borders work for peanuts in dangerous countries. There are hundreds of doctors who work cheap at charity clinics. Money is not everything to some people.

Rush limbaugh would probably agree with you and rachael maddow would probably agree with me. That's what makes this country great.:mrgreen:
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Yes, SOME physicians are very altruistic, but if you're counting on these types of people to meet the entire demand of the American public, you're just dreaming.
 
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LiberalAvenger said:
I am not a bit surprised by that. It shows in your opinions.:)
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Why don't you become a doctor if you care so much? Why do you hold my uncle to a higher standard than you do yourself?
 
Gander said:
My uncle is a wealthy doctor who is considering retiring and just selling exotic lizards, no joke.
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If he's able to retire and wants to sell exotic lizards, he should. When I retire I'm going to wear a red hat and a purple coat when I go outside.

We all have to have retirement goals.


Seriously though, you not suggesting that he's going to retire strictly because of Healthcare reform are you?
 
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