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Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

Sounds like this Urologist here has the balls (no pun intended) to stick up for what he believes in; even if the sign is temporary, it does send a signal. Not all the fake white jackets standing behing Obama as camera props are happy and some are making themselves known.
i agree....he's standing up for what he believes in. were i his patient, though, no matter how i voted, i wouldn't let him treat me. politics has no place in a drs office.
 
Are you kidding?

The guy is a rich asshole who just pissed all over the Hippocratic Oath, forcing his backwards far-rightie fringe views down the throats of his patients.

Florida should strip this clown's license to practice medicine.

There may actually be a law against this, or an ethical rule. But I doubt it.

This strikes me as similar to the pharmacists who refuse to dispense birth control.
 
I had the feeling that most professionals would feel this way, but I don't have anyone in the medical field to ask who is a conservative, which is who I would be most interested in hearing from. I am glad to see that you seem to be able to provide it.

Do we know of any MDs of the conservative persuasion who participate here on the forum?

Not that I am aware of. What's funny is that a friend of mine from college just posted something similar to what the right-wingers are doing (It's his first amendment rights!). He was also the first person to call priests who had committed pedophilia "homosexuals." He said it was the same thing. LOL (He's not a doctor.)
 
Well now the hysterics have devolved to simple, idiotic mouthfoaming retardedness. :doh

Why do you think i rushed to post this? It's like.. a comedy for free.
 
Are you kidding?

The guy is a rich asshole who just pissed all over the Hippocratic Oath, forcing his backwards far-rightie fringe views down the throats of his patients.

Florida should strip this clown's license to practice medicine.

Exactly how do you know he's rich?

And what part of the Hippocratic Oath did he violate? I know its easier to act on emotion but share with us your factual evidence.
 
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I don't think I was shooting for a scientific poll. I was more wanting to hear their opinions and rationale.

I doubt aps believes it is a scientific poll. But, the thing you have to ask yourself when given any information is: 'Am I better off with this information than without it?' and then qualify your answer as necessary. I am sure aps has her own method of evaluating the worth of the information she receives.

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[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hearsay"]Hearsay[/ame]


So no, I don't feel better off for having heard about what aps' facey space friends had to say about the matter.
 
And what part of the Hippocratic Oath did he violate? I know its easier to act on emotion but share with us your factual evidence.

Take your pick:

I swear to fulfill, to the best of my ability and judgment, this covenant:
I will respect the hard-won scientific gains of those physicians in whose steps I walk, and gladly share such knowledge as is mine with those who are to follow.

I will apply, for the benefit of the sick, all measures [that] are required, avoiding those twin traps of overtreatment and therapeutic nihilism.

I will remember that there is art to medicine as well as science, and that warmth, sympathy, and understanding may outweigh the surgeon's knife or the chemist's drug.

I will not be ashamed to say "I know not," nor will I fail to call in my colleagues when the skills of another are needed for a patient's recovery.

I will respect the privacy of my patients, for their problems are not disclosed to me that the world may know. Most especially must I tread with care in matters of life and death. If it is given me to save a life, all thanks. But it may also be within my power to take a life; this awesome responsibility must be faced with great humbleness and awareness of my own frailty. Above all, I must not play at God.

I will remember that I do not treat a fever chart, a cancerous growth, but a sick human being, whose illness may affect the person's family and economic stability. My responsibility includes these related problems, if I am to care adequately for the sick.

I will prevent disease whenever I can, for prevention is preferable to cure.

I will remember that I remain a member of society, with special obligations to all my fellow human beings, those sound of mind and body as well as the infirm.

If I do not violate this oath, may I enjoy life and art, respected while I live and remembered with affection thereafter. May I always act so as to preserve the finest traditions of my calling and may I long experience the joy of healing those who seek my help.
 
I think it has less to do with the politics and more to do with the fact that this piece of legislation is going to cripple him in the wallet. As someone in my field, Obama's policies will actually create more jobs, and I'm still adamantly against his administration.

You're not talking about a field that's only going to be slightly affected to the point you can shrug it off. The adverse effects of doctors in this country long-term are going to be immense. And, as much as everyone doesn't want to hear it, this is still a for-profit business. If you do what you do because you love it and it makes you feel good, so be it. You're in the minority.

Well, while I do agree that our capitalist system is based on profit, it doesn't sit too well with me that people are making profits off of the misfortunes of others through the medical system. I'm not saying I agree with Obama's health care plan. I'm just saying that perhaps if the medical system was more about making people better and less about making a profit, it wouldn't bother me as much. However, that is clearly not the case. Doctors across the country charge people absurd amounts of money just so that they can feel better or keep in good health. There are plenty of businesses that benefit from being for-profit businesses and I applaud that. However, I don't think it's right to do that in the medical field. It's just my opinion.
 
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Alright. Let's drop the personal recriminations. Debate the topic.
 
I don't think I was shooting for a scientific poll. I was more wanting to hear their opinions and rationale.

I doubt aps believes it is a scientific poll. But, the thing you have to ask yourself when given any information is: 'Am I better off with this information than without it?' and then qualify your answer as necessary. I am sure aps has her own method of evaluating the worth of the information she receives.

aps said: "I'm glad my friends are professionals."

Clearly aps didn't have any illusions that it was a scientific poll, i.e. that it represented the views of anyone but those who were polled.
 
Some idiots said something very mean once, therefore anyone can say mean things and it's okay.

Great logic.

Both sides have extremists. That was the point I was making and made it well.

I never said anyone can say mean things and it's ok.

That is simply a falsehood on your part.
 
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UPDATE: ON THE DOCTOR

It turns out this joker is pretty crappy doctor, according to his patients.

Based on 662 ratings he got 1.5 out of 4 stars on this site.

One reviewer did agree with him, though.

I agree with your sign... I also wish people would get it straight Obama is not the first black President he is a malato... ...

Dr. Feelgood about playing golf and listening to Sean Hannity.
 
UPDATE: ON THE DOCTOR

It turns out this joker is pretty crappy doctor, according to his patients.

Based on 662 ratings he got 1.5 out of 4 stars on this site.

One reviewer did agree with him, though.



Dr. Feelgood about playing golf and listening to Sean Hannity.

LOL All of those ratings were done after this "incident" occurred. Hardly representative of what kind of doctor he is.
 
UPDATE: ON THE DOCTOR

It turns out this joker is pretty crappy doctor, according to his patients.

Based on 662 ratings he got 1.5 out of 4 stars on this site.

One reviewer did agree with him, though.



Dr. Feelgood about playing golf and listening to Sean Hannity.

:roll::roll::roll:
 
LOL All of those ratings were done after this "incident" occurred. Hardly representative of what kind of doctor he is.

:rofl I was about to say...
 
UPDATE: ON THE DOCTOR

It turns out this joker is pretty crappy doctor, according to his patients.

Based on 662 ratings he got 1.5 out of 4 stars on this site.

One reviewer did agree with him, though.



Dr. Feelgood about playing golf and listening to Sean Hannity.

Oh, a website for people to rate their docs don't like him!!! It's all a sham, he's a horrible doc!!!

If that's true, why have you guys expended so much energy on this?
 
LOL All of those ratings were done after this "incident" occurred. Hardly representative of what kind of doctor he is.

DAMN YOU! I couldn't load the page to see if that were the case! Grrr...

;) And thank you for doing so.
 
Anecdotal Evidence

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So no, I don't feel better off for having heard about what aps' facey space friends had to say about the matter.


Those articles are about the nature of anecdotal evidence in matters of science.

Soooo, I am not sure what you are insisting that she verify scientifically. That it is ok (or not) for doctors to put signs in their office door telling political 'opponents' to kiss off? That she is being unbiased?

Or do you really think she was trying to take a poll of doctors?

I think she was trying to verify to her own satisfaction that she wasn't exhibiting a bias in this matter. It is reasonable for her to present the issue to Republican Doctors to see what their reaction is and compare it to her own. She then presented her 'evidence' here. She is better off than we are with the information because she knows more about her friends than we do. In fact, we can't verify that anything she is saying is true, so we are again not as well off as she is with the information. Nevertheless, I trust her to be truthful about it, though I couldn't say why, exactly.

Anecdotal evidence is useful in inductive reasoning. We use induction much more often than deduction as we move through our lives because of the nature of information. We just really seldom have the opportunity to personally process information in a deductive manner, relatively speaking.

I feel that I am slightly better off with the information than I was previously. I can't PROVE anything with the information, but I wasn't trying to, and neither was Aps. What, exactly, do you think you are going to prove, scientifically, in this thread?

All of this is a matter of opinion unless we perform scientific tests on Aps, and even then it would only get us so far.
 
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