Show me one day since that bill passed where a majority of Americans were for it.
That didn't answer my question. Why didn't Obama include even one major idea the Republicans brought him if this was supposed to be bipartisan? Explain yourself.
Iraq war? In hindsight of course not but the intelligence they had at the time and what they could prove were two very different things. There is no evidence at all that proves Bush knew the intelligence was bad. None, zip, zero no matter how many "Bush lied people died" signs you've read.
And no I wouldn't call Bush a good president. Fair but not good. but I doubt very much the reasons I have for that statement coincide with your own.
As far as your polls question, I'm not sure what you mean. If you are asking did he deserve his poll numbers for the most part I would say yes.
It is my understanding that there were several GOP ideas included in the health bill. At least, that's what the news reports. I mean, they were for these ideas before they flipped-flopped and were against them. You mean to tell me the media lied? Say it isn't so! :shock: :rofl
As far as what Bush did or did not know, we'll have to agree to disagree on that one. For I am one who believes now, as I did back then, that his manipulation of the media and the cherry-picking of his facts was a carefully orchestrated maneuver to lead our nation to war with Iraq. However, I do conceed, that there were many gullible politicians, on both sides of the aisle, who fell for his bull**** and went along with his plan. The oval office lying in such a serious matter seemed beyond comprehension to some folks. But, like you said, hindsite being 20/20, I would hope we all know better now.
My point was simply, people agree with polls when it agrees with them. I Googled RCP (since that is an "average" polling site,) trying to find a day to day chart with the approval/disapproval ratings to no avail. And I have simply run out of time. If you can find any, I would be interested in knowing.
But here is some propaganda I was able to find Googling. I cannot attest to their validity, however.
By Slim Margin, Americans Support Healthcare Bill's Passage
However, all that being said, I will be the first to admit, across the board, that most every poll I have seen always tips in the disapproval side. The days I remember it being reported on the approval side can be counted on one hand. Which brings me back to my original point and conclusion. When the polls favor someones ideological beliefs, the poll stands valid. When it doesn't, the poll is written off as invalid. I have seen both sides do this. Surely you can agree.
Thank you for your civil and honest debate. I have to scoot now as I have a date with a lake, canoe and an ultra-light Shimano. If you want to pick it up later, count me in. In the meantime, have yourself a fine Texas weekend and keep your powder dry.