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    Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    So putting up a sign saying he won't treat Obama supporters is different than putting a sign saying he won't treat gay people how?
    Because being an Obama supporter isn't something that is medically relevant that needs to be disclosed.


    And its within my rights to call him a scumbag for it as well. Even if his speech is protected, and even if the AMA doesn't have a problem with is behavior, that doesn't give him a immunity to criticism for it either.
    OK, but as I said before, the hysterics over his tongue in cheek display of political speech are priceless.

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    Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    I promise you, I find nothing "personal" about this, just a travesty of medical responsibility being praised and encouraged by the usual irresponsible "McVeigh Wannabe's" (Hannity's phrase, not mine).The health care bill has done nothing to damage this doctor's practice or the treatment options of any of those who scream "dictatorship" The irresponsible recklessness of the wingnuts on the right is fast making them irrelevant in contributing to the growth of this nation.
    I'm sure you could have packed more nonsensical adverbs and adjectives than that. Glad to be part of the wingnuts, as you describe them. We need to start standing up for ourselves in this country and if this is what you consider petty, I consider it patriotic. You find it irresponsible, I find it refreshing. The bill WILL in fact hurt doctors - especially those who treat medicare/medicaid patients even though there's been a delay in implementation of that until the end of 2010 - most likely to help Democrats in Novembers elections.

    But really - is the blowback so unexpected? Liberals and Progressives forced this through with split support at BEST. Surprised some Dr's will pack it in and close up shop? Surprised some are expressing their discontent? Then the characterization of "petty" and the name calling begins with calls of legal action. Sounds like the nuts are part of your group, not mine. What's next? Time to round up the discontented and hold them in jail a while because they don't buy into Progressive policy?

    My advice: Get used to the push back. It's only the beginning.
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    Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

    I know that you read his point of view and arrived in some convoluted manner at the wrong conclusion.

    He actually said he would not turn anyone away.
    The people who come into his office and see the sign certainly don't know that.

    I have no problem with any person pointing out their Political preference, after all in the USA one is supposedly freely permitted to express their view.

    I suppose this must depend on whether they agree with the type of Politics you espouse.
    Nobody is trying to suppress his speech. I am using my right free speech to criticism him for his asshole behavior.

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    Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    I wouldn't use a liberal doctor for my healthcare who had posted something similar about Bush < or name your conservative >. I think it is unprofessional to bring up the subject of politics in a contentious way with your clients/patients to begin with. It is even moreso to pretend that you want those who disagree with you to 'go away' (in a professional setting). If the Doctor doesn't know this, he is the one who needs to 'Grow up', along with all of his supporters here and elsewhere.

    I can't imagine letting someone known to be so completely clueless be my doctor, whether he said it about a liberal politician or conservative.
    I doubt his personal politics had much of an influence on his obtaining a medical license. I have serious misgivings about letting his personal politics cloud my judgment of his ability to practice medicine or not.

    Your hysterics are priceless.

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    Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Answer my questions first and I will answer yours.
    Sure thing. I had to page back a long ways to find them but here goes.

    Re: Masses approve/disapprove: I have seen the poll numbers go both ways on a day to day basis. If you say that today the masses oppose, today, I will believe you. It's not that hard to conceive given the day to day fluctuation of that number.

    Re: Olive branch: I know, I know. I watch FOXNews too. I know the official rightwing position on that. But, I also know what I saw and heard with my own eyes and ears. I am not one to have some ideological fantasy piss on my head and tell me it's raining. The olive branch was extended and refused. That's the FACTS I witnessed. No spin, propaganda, or whacko intrepretation trying to convince me that what is real, isn't real, is gonna fly. I am a hard-wired realist.

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    Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

    This person is a doctor. He's not a politician. The politics of his patients are irrelevant. He's a piece of **** and I'll bet a teabagger.

    Does he have the right to speak his mind? Sure. Is he an a$$hole/piece of ****/****sucking mother****er? Yup

    He is denying care, the sign clearly "...seek urologic care elsewhere" It doesn't say "if you want" or "I don't support the Health care bill so you might want to seek care elsewhere".

    I certainly hope. He's in violation of the law... decisions have consequences.

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    Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

    big picture: 30% of those on medicare already report having trouble finding a doctor who will take them

    at ny presbyterian only about 40% of doctors take medicare

    in texas, 38% of primary caregivers

    this phenomenon is nation wide and MUST get MUCH worse

    because:

    YOU CAN'T EXPAND M AND M BY 12 MIL WHILE CUTTING FUNDING HALF A T

    kent conrad of north dakota is the party's point person on the topic, has been for a year

    he's baucus' right hand man in the GATEWAY, senate finance, and one of the GATEKEEPER's ubiquitous six

    Senator Kent Conrad | North Dakota

    indeed, conrad's correct in pointing out that the problem dr cassell is painting up is far greater in rural areas than it is in the big city

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    Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    This person is a doctor. He's not a politician. The politics of his patients are irrelevant. He's a piece of **** and I'll bet a teabagger.
    Well now the hysterics have devolved to simple, idiotic mouthfoaming retardedness.

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    Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    This person is a doctor. He's not a politician. The politics of his patients are irrelevant. He's a piece of **** and I'll bet a teabagger.

    Does he have the right to speak his mind? Sure. Is he an a$$hole/piece of ****/****sucking mother****er? Yup

    He is denying care, the sign clearly "...seek urologic care elsewhere" It doesn't say "if you want" or "I don't support the Health care bill so you might want to seek care elsewhere".

    I certainly hope. He's in violation of the law... decisions have consequences.
    People should be held responsible for their political choices.
    They effect everyone else.
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    Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Hmmm in one breath he says go else where in another he says he won't refuse service. The man is speaking out of both sides of his mouth
    Oh dear Lord grant me patience.

    Here we have yet another poster who simply reads the article and still manages to turn it around.

    Read what the good Dr. is reported to have said.

    Quote "IF SOMEONE READS THE NOTICE AND TURN AROUND AND WALKS AWAY, SO BE IT".
    The Dr. is as he is permitted to do under the US Constitution, giving his opinion, without profanity.

    He is then reported as having said "I WILL NOT TURN A PATIENT AWAY".
    The Dr. is thus upholding his Hippocratic oath.

    Now just what is your problem?

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