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    Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Your religion cannot be imposed on another person. Pharmacists and doctors are there to dispense meds and medical care, not to impose their religious restrictions on perfectly legal medical procedures and care. If they don't like it, find another profession more in line with their religious insecurities.
    And the government can't force me to perform acts that go against my religious convictions, either. It says that in the Constitution.
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    Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    That's not the hippocratic oath doctors take today. So MASSIVE FAIL.

    Today's Hippocratic Oath
    So, you find some morphadited, new wave, PC version of the Hippocratic Oath and suddenly you're the winner here? Let's just say you're correct, it still doesn't take away the religious freedom aspect.
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    Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

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    And the government can't force me to perform acts that go against my religious convictions, either. It says that in the Constitution.
    Doctors aren't forced to give abortions. If they don't want to preform the procedure they send the patient to see some one else. Nothing is forcing them do it if it against their religious beliefs.

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    Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, you find some morphadited, new wave, PC version of the Hippocratic Oath and suddenly you're the winner here? Let's just say you're correct, it still doesn't take away the religious freedom aspect.
    That's the Hippocratic Oath that doctors have been taking since 1966.

    Do you educate yourself about anything before you start wagging your fingers on the keyboard to post? Anything?

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    Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Do you oppose soldiers declaring a contiencious objector status in the United States military? Killing the enemy is a soldier's job. Yes?
    No i don't object at all. Conscientious objectors use their beliefs to get out of being soldiers so they don't have to do the job.
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    Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    And the government can't force me to perform acts that go against my religious convictions, either. It says that in the Constitution.
    True. It can't force you to be a doctor if you are opposed to dispensing meds. It can withhold an MD and license to practice if you are unwilling to carry out the functions of a doctor.

    Glad we are clear on that.

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    Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Do you oppose soldiers declaring a contiencious objector status in the United States military? Killing the enemy is a soldier's job. Yes?
    Once they have enlisted? Yes. Before, no problem at all, and if we had a draft, I would support jobs in the military for conscientious objectors.
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    Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    And the government can't force me to perform acts that go against my religious convictions, either. It says that in the Constitution.
    Then they can't force the company to keep you on the payroll if you aren't performing your job either. They have a right to fire you.
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    Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    I'd be happy to go elsewhere. Anyone who would put politics over someone's heath isn't worthy of my business.
    I think his point is that health care will suffer as a result of this. Therefore he is NOT putting politics over health care; he's fighting to STOP politics from HURTING health care. That said, it was probably unwise from a business standpoint to put it up, since such things tend to alienate customers. But that's his choice.

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    Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Depends on what job they signed on for. I would fully expect a chaplain to object while someone who signed on as infantry, I would see court martialed for refusing to perform that duty.
    I'll give you an A for consistancy, anyway. However, you're still wrong. I fully support a soldier's right to refuse to kill another human being for moral reasons. Just like I support a soldier's right to refuse to carry out an immoral order for the same reasons.

    When William Calley ordered his men to hose down women and children in a ditch at Mi Lai, they were just doing their job. Yes, I know you don't believe that. my point is, today we are forcing doctors to perform procedures that are contrary to their religious convictions, or stop practicing medicine. Tomorrow, we're forcing young soldiers to herd millions of people into death camps, or face prosecution.

    The Constitution gives us certain liberties and I fully support those liberties and all they imply, without question. I reckon I'm as stupid as you like to claim for believing in our constitutional freedoms to the hilt.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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