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    Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

    Quote Originally Posted by Gander View Post
    Obamacare will create even more rules, regulations, boards, agencies, etc. to deal with, which will further disincentivize people from becoming or remaining physicians.
    If these rules, regulations, boards, and agencies are created towards the abuses by the insurance industry, and to manage things like tort reform, I am all for them. These kinds of reforms are badly needed.
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    Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

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    If these rules, regulations, boards, and agencies are created towards the abuses by the insurance industry, and to manage things like tort reform, I am all for them. These kinds of reforms are badly needed.
    Even if it decreases the number of physicians?

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    Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

    Quote Originally Posted by Gander View Post
    Even if it decreases the number of physicians?
    The types of reforms and regluations around the insurance industry and tort reform that I would like to see, would not cause that.
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    Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    The types of reforms and regluations around the insurance industry and tort reform that I would like to see, would not cause that.
    But we're not talking about what you would do. We're talking about Obamacare.

    And doesn't Medicare deny more claims on average than the insurance industry?

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    Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

    Tort reform is only a tiny percent of health care, about one percent or something like that.

    Will tort reform save us money? I think not. The insurance companies will give it away in ceo bonuses.

    Question: Why does it cost as much at animal hospitals as it does for humans even though vets do not have to buy expensive liability and malpractice insurance?

    I am talking about basic medical needs and not brain surgery.

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    Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

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    Question: Why does it cost as much at animal hospitals as it does for humans even though vets do not have to buy expensive liability and malpractice insurance?

    I am talking about basic medical needs and not brain surgery.
    Show proof of this.

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    Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

    Quote Originally Posted by Gander View Post
    Show proof of this.
    The last time I took a cat to my vet for some minor things it cost $150. At that time it would have cost me the same amount to go to a doctor and have th same procedures done.

    I am too lazy to prove it now but I would like to check out the comparissions in cost. A lot of them are close in price, you know.

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    Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

    Quote Originally Posted by Gander View Post
    But we're not talking about what you would do. We're talking about Obamacare.
    That's why I prefaced my comment with "if". I'm not completely sure where this bill is going to lead us. There are things I like about it, and things I do not.

    And doesn't Medicare deny more claims on average than the insurance industry?
    From information I have read, I think so. This is also why I prefaced my comment with, "from my experience". In my field, Medicare is much easier to deal with than standard insurance companies. I think that physicians have it tougher. Our rate of reimbursement is significantly better than many insurance companies, but worse than that is offered to physicians.
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    Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

    Vet prices link

    Can You Believe These VET Prices???? - Yahoo! Answers

    read the comments $50 for dog poop test.
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    Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

    Quote Originally Posted by Gander View Post
    Even if it decreases the number of physicians?
    They won't though. They affect insurance companies mostly, not providers.

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