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    Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

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    This is just an unrealistic viewpoint to have. Becoming a medical doctor is grueling work that takes at least eight years of your life to achieve. Hoping that people will undergo this ordeal out of altruism is just naive.
    Hoping people will do it solely out of altruism is naive. In the helping professions, for most, there is certainly an altruistic quality, or, chances are, they wouldn't be going into the field.
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    Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

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    Most of the caregivers I have known are altruistic. You must have not been sick for a while. The doctors I have known in my life let their secretaries handle the business part so it sounds like this doctor is just a money grubbing bean counter.
    Wanting to earn a good salary does not preclude someone from being altruistic; altruism is a spectrum, not a light switch. But this fails to address my point, that many physicians are motivated to earn a good living. Expecting them to endure medical school out of pure altruism is just a fantasy.

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    Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

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    Wanting to earn a good salary does not preclude someone from being altruistic; altruism is a spectrum, not a light switch. But this fails to address my point, that many physicians are motivated to earn a good living. Expecting them to endure medical school out of pure altruism is just a fantasy.
    You're right. It does fall on a spectrum. For some the altruistic aspect is more important than the money to a varying degree. To others, to a varying degree, the opposite is true.
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    Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

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    Hoping people will do it solely out of altruism is naive. In the helping professions, for most, there is certainly an altruistic quality, or, chances are, they wouldn't be going into the field.
    The majority of people give substantial consideration to the amount of money they will make in their chosen profession. Eventually, considerations of salary will outweigh their desire to help people. It's just human nature.

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    Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

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    The majority of people give substantial consideration to the amount of money they will make in their chosen profession. Eventually, considerations of salary will outweigh their desire to help people. It's just human nature.
    I disagree. I work in the field. It varies from person to person. Some will choose to work at a position that earns them less money because of their altruistic nature.
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    Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

    Quote Originally Posted by Gander View Post
    Wanting to earn a good salary does not preclude someone from being altruistic; altruism is a spectrum, not a light switch. But this fails to address my point, that many physicians are motivated to earn a good living. Expecting them to endure medical school out of pure altruism is just a fantasy.
    Doctors without borders work for peanuts in dangerous countries. There are hundreds of doctors who work cheap at charity clinics. Money is not everything to some people.

    Rush limbaugh would probably agree with you and rachael maddow would probably agree with me. That's what makes this country great.

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    Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

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    I disagree. I work in the field. It varies from person to person. Some will choose to work at a position that earns them less money because of their altruistic nature.
    I agree, but I would contend that these types are not in the majority. Most people are just out to earn a living, whether they're a doctor, a teacher, or a fry cook. Once physicians feel they aren't earning a salary commensurate with their skill set, they will start exiting the field in large numbers, and many potential physicians won't even bother going to medical school. Who'd want to endure four years of intensive training only to make less than you're worth while navigating a labyrinthine system of government bureaucracies? Oh, and don't forget the lawsuits!

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    Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

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    Doctors without borders work for peanuts in dangerous countries. There are hundreds of doctors who work cheap at charity clinics. Money is not everything to some people.

    Rush limbaugh would probably agree with you and rachael maddow would probably agree with me. That's what makes this country great.
    Yes, SOME physicians are very altruistic, but if you're counting on these types of people to meet the entire demand of the American public, you're just dreaming.
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    Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

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    I am not a bit surprised by that. It shows in your opinions.
    Why don't you become a doctor if you care so much? Why do you hold my uncle to a higher standard than you do yourself?

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    Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

    Quote Originally Posted by Gander View Post
    My uncle is a wealthy doctor who is considering retiring and just selling exotic lizards, no joke.




    If he's able to retire and wants to sell exotic lizards, he should. When I retire I'm going to wear a red hat and a purple coat when I go outside.

    We all have to have retirement goals.


    Seriously though, you not suggesting that he's going to retire strictly because of Healthcare reform are you?


    I would chat with her when I'm feeling particularly snarky, but I wouldn't ever call her on the phone.

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