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    Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Nope, that's bull****. The typical general and family practicioner can make between 150-250k a year but usually averages around 85k, this is a gross before tax average.
    You have to be kidding

    A RN in Alberta working 32/week with evening and weekend shifts will make around 70-90 k a year.

    No RN in Alberta makes more then the doctors (provided he is working full time) here either, yet we have a doctor shortage as well

    http://www.allied-physicians.com/sal...n-salaries.htm

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    The lowest paid was an ambulatory physician with 1-2 years of experience $80 000

    The top was a spine specialist at over 1 million
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    Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    You have to be kidding

    A RN in Alberta working 32/week with evening and weekend shifts will make around 70-90 k a year.

    No RN in Alberta makes more then the doctors (provided he is working full time) here either, yet we have a doctor shortage as well

    Physician Salaries - Salary Surveys

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    The lowest paid was an ambulatory physician with 1-2 years of experience $80 000

    The top was a spine specialist at over 1 million
    That negates what I said how? You do realize I am speaking of a mean average right?

    http://www.careeroverview.com/genera...-salaries.html The low is about 70k, median(defined as 50% or less of the sample size) about 145k and high is a variable. So yes, the entire sample mean would skew to around 85K.
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    Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    That negates what I said how? You do realize I am speaking of a mean average right?

    Family and General Practitioner Salary, Earnings and Wage Information The low is about 70k, median(defined as 50% or less of the sample size) about 145k and high is a variable. So yes, the entire sample mean would skew to around 85K.
    Something is wrong with the list in your link

    The high and the median income is the same, something that is not possible,

    The median income is $145600 and the high income is $145600

    Meaning your calculation would be wrong as well

    It appears that that site does not calculate the high income if it is over 145600 and just defaults to that figure


    Which means trying to calculate the mean from that site is impossible as it is not providing the information that would be required to do so
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    Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

    Quote Originally Posted by USA-1 View Post
    Of course those that have milked as much money from the system as possible are going to retire. They are the reason we needed reform in the first place. Time to open up med schools and let anyone that has the ability and desire to be a doctor, be one. We need new blood anyway. No more rationing of med schools.

    You people worry about the doctors too much. They will come out of this just fine. They will still be the richest people in town.
    Lets examine your loaded terms and bias

    1) "milked money from the system"

    marxist speak for people who worked hard and worked smart

    2) worry about doctors too much

    No, I worry about freedom and our constitution too much

    3) the "richest people in town"

    the scummy attorneys who sue doctors make more

    you seem to be one of those bitter cubicle bunnies who is mad at those who make more than you are. ITs a strange combination of populist nonsense and socialist nonsense.

    But you prove my point

    most of the support for the obamanonsense comes from those who want the legislation to Punish people



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    Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    I have a law degree, which I received in 1995. Please explain to me how the 10th amendment has been violated, because I don't understand how you can make that conclusion.
    because powers not specifically delegated to Congress by the Constitution are reserved to the people and the several states. Where was health care a power delegated to congress.



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    Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

    Quote Originally Posted by Bassman View Post
    I take it you'd have no problem with doctors earning less than the national poverety level?? Pathetic, but then again, that's what I would expect from a Lib like you!!
    liberals are an interesting lot--they decry others working for money but want their hands in the pockets of everyone who actually earns more than they do



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    Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

    Quote Originally Posted by USA-1 View Post
    Wrong. The typical family practitioner makes 150k/year. Many make much more.
    Talk about ignorance. You are starting to embarrass yourself. You might want to move on.
    not a whole lot of money given what it takes to be a doctor



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    Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    liberals are an interesting lot--they decry others working for money but want their hands in the pockets of everyone who actually earns more than they do
    And conservatives are a hypocritical lot

    Especially when rich people use their money for things they want to buy they call them elitist

    Buying good food and the conservatives scream elitist

    Getting an expensive hair cut, elitist

    Buying an expensive foreign car elitist

    The dont mind people having money, they just dont want people to use it for enjoyment
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    Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

    With respect to the interpretation of the 10th Amendment, an issue that arose in this thread, Cornell University Law School's Legal Information Institute provides a good background summary:

    CRS/LII Annotated Constitution Tenth Amendment -- Table of Contents

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    Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Lets examine your loaded terms and bias

    1) "milked money from the system"

    marxist speak for people who worked hard and worked smart

    2) worry about doctors too much

    No, I worry about freedom and our constitution too much

    3) the "richest people in town"

    the scummy attorneys who sue doctors make more

    you seem to be one of those bitter cubicle bunnies who is mad at those who make more than you are. ITs a strange combination of populist nonsense and socialist nonsense.

    But you prove my point

    most of the support for the obamanonsense comes from those who want the legislation to Punish people
    Wrong. Doctors make more because they created an artificial shortage. It's not a free market. That's the problem. You worry about freedom? That's a joke. If you cared about freedom you would demand a stop to rationing medical training.

    If some doctors want to retire because they might make a little less money then so be it. They probably shouldn't be in the profession anyway. I really don't care if anyone makes more than me. I just don't like paying their way because the playing field isn't level.
    The currant healthcare system already punishes. It bankrupts people and destroys lives instead of saving them. It really did need reform and
    tort reform and selling insurance across state lines isn't the answer. It's a joke.
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