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    Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Is there any other way to take it?
    Orally, twice a day.
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    Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    The olive branch was extended and refused.
    olive branch---LOL!

    obama on march 1 announced he would "consider" FOUR gop ideas in his pig of a bill

    1. tom coburn's proposal to use undercover "patients" to root out m and m fraud from inside

    2. ending the cornhusker kickback

    3. ending the gatoraid exemption for brother bill in florida

    and (my favorite):

    4. FIFTY MILLION DOLLARS CASH for the express purpose TO STUDY (LOL!) tort reform at the various state levels

    Obama to incorporate GOP ideas in health plan - Health care reform- msnbc.com

    #'s 1 and 4, to my knowledge, never became part of the law

    of course, a couple days after announcing his "considerations," he went about trying to DEEM his passage

    olive branch---LOL!
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    Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

    The doctor has every right to put that sign there as long as he isn't actually refusing anyone. However, it is ALSO the right of people to criticize the doctors signs as well.

    The doctor is acting like an ass.

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    Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

    the doctor is not the story

    the deleterious effect of obamacare on private providers across the land is

    YOU CAN'T EXPAND M AND M BY 12 MIL WHILE CUTTING THEIR FUNDING HALF A T

    ALREADY SOME HALF THE DOCTORS IN THE NATION WILL NOT TAKE M NOR M PATIENTS

    discussing dr cassell is little more than gossip, politically speaking

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    Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Is there any other way to take it?
    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    It is personal.
    My comment was a response to Okham perception of liberals taking this issue personally. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. If these issues can be taken personally by conservatives, then they can be taken personally by liberals. There is no distinction.
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    Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    And reported.
    YOU always make it personal, Jallman. I was just doing it more overtly. But, thanks anyway
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    Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    YOU always make personal, Jallman. I was just doing it more overtly. But, thanks anyway
    Make personal what? Syntax fail.

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    Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Show me one day since that bill passed where a majority of Americans were for it.



    That didn't answer my question. Why didn't Obama include even one major idea the Republicans brought him if this was supposed to be bipartisan? Explain yourself.



    Iraq war? In hindsight of course not but the intelligence they had at the time and what they could prove were two very different things. There is no evidence at all that proves Bush knew the intelligence was bad. None, zip, zero no matter how many "Bush lied people died" signs you've read.


    And no I wouldn't call Bush a good president. Fair but not good. but I doubt very much the reasons I have for that statement coincide with your own.

    As far as your polls question, I'm not sure what you mean. If you are asking did he deserve his poll numbers for the most part I would say yes.
    It is my understanding that there were several GOP ideas included in the health bill. At least, that's what the news reports. I mean, they were for these ideas before they flipped-flopped and were against them. You mean to tell me the media lied? Say it isn't so!

    As far as what Bush did or did not know, we'll have to agree to disagree on that one. For I am one who believes now, as I did back then, that his manipulation of the media and the cherry-picking of his facts was a carefully orchestrated maneuver to lead our nation to war with Iraq. However, I do conceed, that there were many gullible politicians, on both sides of the aisle, who fell for his bull**** and went along with his plan. The oval office lying in such a serious matter seemed beyond comprehension to some folks. But, like you said, hindsite being 20/20, I would hope we all know better now.

    My point was simply, people agree with polls when it agrees with them. I Googled RCP (since that is an "average" polling site,) trying to find a day to day chart with the approval/disapproval ratings to no avail. And I have simply run out of time. If you can find any, I would be interested in knowing.

    But here is some propaganda I was able to find Googling. I cannot attest to their validity, however.

    By Slim Margin, Americans Support Healthcare Bill's Passage

    However, all that being said, I will be the first to admit, across the board, that most every poll I have seen always tips in the disapproval side. The days I remember it being reported on the approval side can be counted on one hand. Which brings me back to my original point and conclusion. When the polls favor someones ideological beliefs, the poll stands valid. When it doesn't, the poll is written off as invalid. I have seen both sides do this. Surely you can agree.

    Thank you for your civil and honest debate. I have to scoot now as I have a date with a lake, canoe and an ultra-light Shimano. If you want to pick it up later, count me in. In the meantime, have yourself a fine Texas weekend and keep your powder dry.

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    Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Hey...didja read the article where it said he isn't actually turning anyone away?
    I did. The doctor's an ass. Patients go to doctors because they're sick, not to be make a political statement.

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    Re: Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    the doctor is not the story
    Actually the doctor is the story, if you want to rant and rave about Obama, there are plenty of other threads for that. Why don't you complain in one of those?

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