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    Re: Calif. AG Says ACORN Broke No Criminal Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    All I need to know is to watch the tape. Or are you saying this was staged and acted? As a result, ACORN is no more... now we get to watch and see. My bet is these new regional or state groups (aka ACORN) will again be outed. Can't polish a turd.
    ACORN has done a great deal of good for people regardless of their political affiliation. To hound them out of existence because of that ridiculous tape is unconsionable. You people really don't care who you hurt, as long as you win.

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    Re: Calif. AG Says ACORN Broke No Criminal Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    While ACORN members may have engaged in highly unethical behavior, that doesn't mean that it was criminal. Being talked into condoning criminal action isn't a crime. Also, it should be noted that the guy was absurdly deceptive about what really happened, including instances when ACORN called the cops on him. I am glad that ACORN is getting its funding removed by the government, but criminal charges are not appropriate.
    Just another classic example of the media's influencial power.

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    Re: Calif. AG Says ACORN Broke No Criminal Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    ACORN has done a great deal of good for people regardless of their political affiliation. To hound them out of existence because of that ridiculous tape is unconsionable. You people really don't care who you hurt, as long as you win.
    Wasn't it ACORN that enforced all of the lax home loan programs that ultimately caused the Subprime Mortgage meltdown?

    A whole lotta good that did for the economy...

    How Bill Clinton, ACORN & Barack Obama fueled the mortgage crisis
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    Re: Calif. AG Says ACORN Broke No Criminal Laws

    Not that Acorn is perfect, far from it -- but it's interesting to me how when conservatives decide who to criticize they go after the group that spends its time trying to help poor people while defending the big banks and businesses that give its CEOs million dollar bonuses while ruining the economy.

    Seriously, it's kind of like that syndrome where the captors start identifying with their oppressors. I never get that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    Not that Acorn is perfect, far from it -- but it's interesting to me how when conservatives decide who to criticize they go after the group that spends its time trying to help poor people while defending the big banks and businesses that give its CEOs million dollar bonuses while ruining the economy.

    Seriously, it's kind of like that syndrome where the captors start identifying with their oppressors. I never get that.
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    Re: Calif. AG Says ACORN Broke No Criminal Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Politics101 View Post
    Wasn't it ACORN that enforced all of the lax home loan programs that ultimately caused the Subprime Mortgage meltdown?

    A whole lotta good that did for the economy...

    How Bill Clinton, ACORN & Barack Obama fueled the mortgage crisis
    Yeah those banks had nothing to do with it.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Calif. AG Says ACORN Broke No Criminal Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    ACORN has done a great deal of good for people regardless of their political affiliation. To hound them out of existence because of that ridiculous tape is unconsionable. You people really don't care who you hurt, as long as you win.
    Yes it is always beneficial when illegals are registered and vote, just as it is winos in almost every state and even dead people.


    ACORN canvassing the graveyard vote again? SAY IT AIN'T SO!

    How about just PHONY registrations?

    Nevada charges ACORN
    Nevada charges ACORN - News - ReviewJournal.com

    The Complete Guide to ACORN Voter Fraud
    Pajamas Media The Complete Guide to ACORN Voter Fraud

    Yes "ACORN has done a great deal of good for people regardless of their political affiliation", as long as they are pro-Obama or just Leftist Liberals.

    There is no end to ACORNS corruption and that's not even counting the fraud in Housing or the help they wanted to give a Hooker in buying a whole house for illegal alien children hookers.

    Yes let's us all pat ACORN on the back. But only if you have moral compass what ever.

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    Re: Calif. AG Says ACORN Broke No Criminal Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Yeah those banks had nothing to do with it.
    Not when the government forced the regulations on the banks that caused the crisis.

    Is it really that difficult to comprehend? Do you honestly think the banks would have lent mortgages to people who could not afford to pay them back... without being forced to?

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    Re: Calif. AG Says ACORN Broke No Criminal Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Yes it is always beneficial when illegals are registered and vote, just as it is winos in almost every state and even dead people.


    ACORN canvassing the graveyard vote again? SAY IT AIN'T SO!

    How about just PHONY registrations?

    Nevada charges ACORN
    Nevada charges ACORN - News - ReviewJournal.com

    The Complete Guide to ACORN Voter Fraud
    Pajamas Media The Complete Guide to ACORN Voter Fraud

    Yes "ACORN has done a great deal of good for people regardless of their political affiliation", as long as they are pro-Obama or just Leftist Liberals.

    There is no end to ACORNS corruption and that's not even counting the fraud in Housing or the help they wanted to give a Hooker in buying a whole house for illegal alien children hookers.

    Yes let's us all pat ACORN on the back. But only if you have moral compass what ever.

    Those who stand for nothing fall for anything. We know them as Liberals.
    First one is an opinion piece hard to take it seriously. Second one charges individuals for committing voter registration fraud. Have you followed up on those nevada charges? Pajamas media is another site which fails to understand what voter fraud is. ACORN never committed voter fraud. It actually takes fake people to show up and vote in order for it to be voter fraud. Every case I've seen is that people working for ACORN were committing fraud against acorn to meet a quota. ACORN is charged by law to turn in all voter registrations they receive even if they look suspicious. They mark ones they deem suspicious. ACORN registered republicans and democrats. As opposed to an outfit in Nevada who was busted for throwing out democrat registrations.
    Investigation into Trashed Voter Registrations - Las Vegas Now


    You're talking about "help they wanted to give" to a nonexistent child prostitution ring. Those who gave advice were subsequently fired. No violation of the law was committed. How do you feel about Dyncorp who receives billions from taxpayers after they have twice been accused of running actual child prostitution rings?

    Did you bother to watch the unedited videos? Over and over Okeefe was told they couldn't help and harrassed them until someone felt sorry for Giles. The videos don't show what O'keefe tried to make you believe when taken in their full context. Even so no laws were broken.

    As for the banks being "forced" CRA loans were backed by the government and were the safest of the housing loans. 3/4ths of the subprime loans came from banks not under full CRA control. So yes blaming CRA for the housing market collapse has no basis in fact. Banks chose to sell their debt around, hide assets, cook the books.

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    Re: Calif. AG Says ACORN Broke No Criminal Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Politics101 View Post
    Not when the government forced the regulations on the banks that caused the crisis.

    Is it really that difficult to comprehend? Do you honestly think the banks would have lent mortgages to people who could not afford to pay them back... without being forced to?
    Which regulations were those and what was the punishement for the bank if they did not follow them?


    Hmm

    Instead of waiting

    You are talking about the CRA which was designed to encourage lending into poorer minority communities

    The punishement was.

    The CRA would provide a score on how well the bank met the CRA regulations. That score would be taken into advisement by Banking regulators on whether or not to allow banking expansion through opening new branches or buying out its competitors.

    Operative word advisement. The CRA by itself could do nothing, its score would only be part of what would be used to determine if the bank should be allowed to buy out a competitor
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