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Calif. AG Says ACORN Broke No Criminal Laws

Those who stand for nothing fall for anything.

Wow, at least we agree on that. You fell face first into the whole scam this guy did on Acorn. You believe whole-heartedly in the lies that have been told to you about whether laws were broken. And you think you know more than both Democratic and Republican Attorneys General in every single state that has looked into this and found nothing.

Talk about "falling for anything!"
 
Wow, at least we agree on that. You fell face first into the whole scam this guy did on Acorn. You believe whole-heartedly in the lies that have been told to you about whether laws were broken. And you think you know more than both Democratic and Republican Attorneys General in every single state that has looked into this and found nothing.

Talk about "falling for anything!"

All I need to know is to watch the tape. Or are you saying this was staged and acted? As a result, ACORN is no more... now we get to watch and see. My bet is these new regional or state groups (aka ACORN) will again be outed. Can't polish a turd.
 
All I need to know is to watch the tape. Or are you saying this was staged and acted? As a result, ACORN is no more... now we get to watch and see. My bet is these new regional or state groups (aka ACORN) will again be outed. Can't polish a turd.

Ah, the old "smoke and mirrors" trick.

AGs from many states saw the complete tape -- not the edited one -- read the law, and determined that no laws were broken by Acorn.

And you? Have you seen ALL the evidence or just the edited tape, done in such a way to make the facts seem different? Do YOU have a law degree? How come you seem to know more than all of these experts who looked into it?
 
Ah, the old "smoke and mirrors" trick.

AGs from many states saw the complete tape -- not the edited one -- read the law, and determined that no laws were broken by Acorn.

And you? Have you seen ALL the evidence or just the edited tape, done in such a way to make the facts seem different? Do YOU have a law degree? How come you seem to know more than all of these experts who looked into it?
It reminds me of the Terri Schiavo tapes where a couple of minutes were edited out of 4 hours worth of tape to make it seem like she was alert, responsive but in actuality the unedited tapes painted a different story.
 
When every accusation against ACORN has been either proven false or proven to be blown vastly out of proportion, people assume the process of proving that is just further evidence of a cover-up. Conspiracy Theory 101 - Any counter evidence is actually evidence.

More than one law enforcement group has reviewed the charges and dismissed them based on the editing done to the videos... yet people keep touting those videos as unassailable proof of guilt.
 
All I need to know is to watch the tape. Or are you saying this was staged and acted? As a result, ACORN is no more... now we get to watch and see. My bet is these new regional or state groups (aka ACORN) will again be outed. Can't polish a turd.

ACORN has done a great deal of good for people regardless of their political affiliation. To hound them out of existence because of that ridiculous tape is unconsionable. You people really don't care who you hurt, as long as you win.
 
While ACORN members may have engaged in highly unethical behavior, that doesn't mean that it was criminal. Being talked into condoning criminal action isn't a crime. Also, it should be noted that the guy was absurdly deceptive about what really happened, including instances when ACORN called the cops on him. I am glad that ACORN is getting its funding removed by the government, but criminal charges are not appropriate.

Just another classic example of the media's influencial power.

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ACORN has done a great deal of good for people regardless of their political affiliation. To hound them out of existence because of that ridiculous tape is unconsionable. You people really don't care who you hurt, as long as you win.

Wasn't it ACORN that enforced all of the lax home loan programs that ultimately caused the Subprime Mortgage meltdown?

A whole lotta good that did for the economy... :doh

How Bill Clinton, ACORN & Barack Obama fueled the mortgage crisis
 
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Not that Acorn is perfect, far from it -- but it's interesting to me how when conservatives decide who to criticize they go after the group that spends its time trying to help poor people while defending the big banks and businesses that give its CEOs million dollar bonuses while ruining the economy.

Seriously, it's kind of like that syndrome where the captors start identifying with their oppressors. I never get that.
 
Not that Acorn is perfect, far from it -- but it's interesting to me how when conservatives decide who to criticize they go after the group that spends its time trying to help poor people while defending the big banks and businesses that give its CEOs million dollar bonuses while ruining the economy.

Seriously, it's kind of like that syndrome where the captors start identifying with their oppressors. I never get that.

Like this? Sen. Corker doesn't want a consumer protection agency to have too much independence.



“I don’t want an overzealous consumer protection agency,” Corker said. “We need balance. Right now in the bill, there’s too much independence and too little coordination between the regulators and the consumer protection side.”

Corker optimistic about hooking up with Dodd again | Affairs of State | NashvillePost.com: Nashville Business News + Nashville Political News


That gives rank and file Americans an idea of where they stand with the GOP.
 
ACORN has done a great deal of good for people regardless of their political affiliation. To hound them out of existence because of that ridiculous tape is unconsionable. You people really don't care who you hurt, as long as you win.

Yes it is always beneficial when illegals are registered and vote, just as it is winos in almost every state and even dead people.


ACORN canvassing the graveyard vote again? SAY IT AIN'T SO!

How about just PHONY registrations?

Nevada charges ACORN
Nevada charges ACORN - News - ReviewJournal.com

The Complete Guide to ACORN Voter Fraud
Pajamas Media The Complete Guide to ACORN Voter Fraud

Yes "ACORN has done a great deal of good for people regardless of their political affiliation", as long as they are pro-Obama or just Leftist Liberals.

There is no end to ACORNS corruption and that's not even counting the fraud in Housing or the help they wanted to give a Hooker in buying a whole house for illegal alien children hookers.

Yes let's us all pat ACORN on the back. But only if you have moral compass what ever.

Those who stand for nothing fall for anything. We know them as Liberals.
 
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Yeah those banks had nothing to do with it.

Not when the government forced the regulations on the banks that caused the crisis.

Is it really that difficult to comprehend? Do you honestly think the banks would have lent mortgages to people who could not afford to pay them back... without being forced to?
 
Yes it is always beneficial when illegals are registered and vote, just as it is winos in almost every state and even dead people.


ACORN canvassing the graveyard vote again? SAY IT AIN'T SO!

How about just PHONY registrations?

Nevada charges ACORN
Nevada charges ACORN - News - ReviewJournal.com

The Complete Guide to ACORN Voter Fraud
Pajamas Media The Complete Guide to ACORN Voter Fraud

Yes "ACORN has done a great deal of good for people regardless of their political affiliation", as long as they are pro-Obama or just Leftist Liberals.

There is no end to ACORNS corruption and that's not even counting the fraud in Housing or the help they wanted to give a Hooker in buying a whole house for illegal alien children hookers.

Yes let's us all pat ACORN on the back. But only if you have moral compass what ever.

Those who stand for nothing fall for anything. We know them as Liberals.

First one is an opinion piece hard to take it seriously. Second one charges individuals for committing voter registration fraud. Have you followed up on those nevada charges? Pajamas media is another site which fails to understand what voter fraud is. ACORN never committed voter fraud. It actually takes fake people to show up and vote in order for it to be voter fraud. Every case I've seen is that people working for ACORN were committing fraud against acorn to meet a quota. ACORN is charged by law to turn in all voter registrations they receive even if they look suspicious. They mark ones they deem suspicious. ACORN registered republicans and democrats. As opposed to an outfit in Nevada who was busted for throwing out democrat registrations.
Investigation into Trashed Voter Registrations - Las Vegas Now


You're talking about "help they wanted to give" to a nonexistent child prostitution ring. Those who gave advice were subsequently fired. No violation of the law was committed. How do you feel about Dyncorp who receives billions from taxpayers after they have twice been accused of running actual child prostitution rings?

Did you bother to watch the unedited videos? Over and over Okeefe was told they couldn't help and harrassed them until someone felt sorry for Giles. The videos don't show what O'keefe tried to make you believe when taken in their full context. Even so no laws were broken.

As for the banks being "forced" CRA loans were backed by the government and were the safest of the housing loans. 3/4ths of the subprime loans came from banks not under full CRA control. So yes blaming CRA for the housing market collapse has no basis in fact. Banks chose to sell their debt around, hide assets, cook the books.
 
Not when the government forced the regulations on the banks that caused the crisis.

Is it really that difficult to comprehend? Do you honestly think the banks would have lent mortgages to people who could not afford to pay them back... without being forced to?

Which regulations were those and what was the punishement for the bank if they did not follow them?


Hmm

Instead of waiting

You are talking about the CRA which was designed to encourage lending into poorer minority communities

The punishement was.

The CRA would provide a score on how well the bank met the CRA regulations. That score would be taken into advisement by Banking regulators on whether or not to allow banking expansion through opening new branches or buying out its competitors.

Operative word advisement. The CRA by itself could do nothing, its score would only be part of what would be used to determine if the bank should be allowed to buy out a competitor
 
Which regulations were those and what was the punishement for the bank if they did not follow them?


Hmm

Instead of waiting

You are talking about the CRA which was designed to encourage lending into poorer minority communities

The punishement was.

The CRA would provide a score on how well the bank met the CRA regulations. That score would be taken into advisement by Banking regulators on whether or not to allow banking expansion through opening new branches or buying out its competitors.

Operative word advisement. The CRA by itself could do nothing, its score would only be part of what would be used to determine if the bank should be allowed to buy out a competitor

Actually that's a good point. The regulations that allowed banks to loan money to people who could never pay it back was, temporarily, on paper, a 'profitable' practice because the bad debt was at first considered future revenue. So they both played on each other that worked out for the worse of our economy.
 
greenspan testifies that congressional pressure was applied on the fed thru the 00's to lend down

Greenspan says Congress pushed Fed on housing boom | Reuters

he states the obvious, everyone knows

tens of millions of upside down mortgages, suicidally NOT in the interests of the lending industry, is sign certain of some concerted push

just as the fake registering of tens of thousands of fake voters in real battleground states is undeniable indication of shady designs on an organizational level at acorn

and if it's not illegal (which faking voter reg's certainly is), it's surely NOT deserving of taxpayer funding, this parental organization, like seed and tree, of obama our president

to be fair, the previous president has smudged his share of fingerprints on the subprime balloon which popped

w-stands-for-what's-his-name routinely bragged about his impressive home ownership numbers, especially for minorities

but acorn is the only interest group i've seen to openly embrace subprime methodologies

at least barney and dead dodd have sense enough to run away
 
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