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    Re: Chechen rebel leader claims he ordered attack on Moscow subway

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    Chechen rebel leader claims he ordered attack on Moscow subway - CNN.com

    [HTML]"CNN) -- Chechen rebel leader Dokku Umarov claimed that he personally gave orders to attack the Moscow subway this week, according to a Chechen rebel Web site. The attacks were revenge for what Umarov called a "massacre conducted by the Russian occupants against the poorest residents of Chechnya and Ingushetia,"[/HTML]

    I am more than satisfied that a group finally claimed credit for the "revenge" attack against the imperilaist Russians. I had felt that is was a revenge attack but verification and acceptance for an act is the best policy. [HTML]Russians will no longer be able to simply observe the battles in the Caucasus, Umarov said. "Therefore, the war will come to your streets, and you will feel it for yourselves and with your own lives," he said in the video. [/HTML]

    The only way that the peoples of the Caucasus will ever get the freedom that all peoples of the world deserve is to bring the war to the Russians.

    Good luck and God bless you Chechen freedom fighters!!!!

    You do realize you are cheering terrorists. Do you cheer Al Queada as well? They do exactly the same thing.
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    Re: Chechen rebel leader claims he ordered attack on Moscow subway

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    I think you should understand that this is a lot older than Beslan. The Russians were killing Chechen children in the 1940s. Stalin deported them to far away lands and moved them around like chess pieces to cold weather and made them work in his concentration camps. The Chechens are a proud people and Russians have tried for centuries to oppress them and Russify them. Read about Operation Lentil. Russia is a incredibly racist country. Always has been.
    The Chechens sided with the Germans during World War II and the Germans killed a hell of a lot more Russians than the Russians ever killed of Chechens.
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    Re: Chechen rebel leader claims he ordered attack on Moscow subway

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    You do realize you are cheering terrorists. Do you cheer Al Queada as well? They do exactly the same thing.
    You and other uninformed people always try to smear honest people such as I am with the false accusation of "cheering" Al Queada. You also smear the Chechen patriots who are fighting Russian imperilaism. Russian imperilaism and imperialistic Russians are not innocent. It is very true thatt Al Queada are terrorists but it is very true that the Chechen freedom fighters are not. The Chechens are fighting for their fereedom but the Russians are fighting to keep the Chechens in the Russian Gulag.
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    Re: Chechen rebel leader claims he ordered attack on Moscow subway

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    The Chechens sided with the Germans during World War II and the Germans killed a hell of a lot more Russians than the Russians ever killed of Chechens.
    The story of "Chechens" siding “with the Germans during World War II” is nothing but a filthy Russian/Stalinist lie that many innocently ignorant people have grown to believe. That lie was perpetrated by Russians/Stalin. I feel very sorry for anyone who believes anything that Stalin had to say. Do you believe the words of the murderer Stalin? I do not beleive the words of the murderer Stalin any more than I would believe Hitler.

    The Russians have falsley accused every nationality and /or ehnic group who fought against Russian/Soviet imperilaism with "colaboration with Gremans". Nothing but a big lie by Russians.
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    Re: Chechen rebel leader claims he ordered attack on Moscow subway

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    The Chechens sided with the Germans during World War II and the Germans killed a hell of a lot more Russians than the Russians ever killed of Chechens.
    ROFL - Why am I not surprised you're this misinformed? Here I'll explain to you what actually happened. The Chechens saw a chance for full independence while the Soviet Union was engaged in war with the Nazis. Their wish for independence dates back to nearly 400 years of Russian oppression. So they organized against the USSR. Knowing that Chechnya enjoyed oil reserves, Stalin decided deport them under the pretext that they were helping the Nazis. Seriously, we all know you're sexually illiterate but try picking up a history book:

    Foundation for Investigation of the Communist Crimes - Latest News - The Soviet War against `Fifth Columnists': The Case of Chechnya, 1942?4

    Although any serious German threat to the Northern Caucasus had ended by the close of 1943, the experiences of the preceding years had taught the Stalinist leadership just how vulnerable Soviet fuel reserves could be: the isthmus that linked northern Iran and European Russia was too strategically vital to leave vulnerable to attack from the south through the Middle East, from the west through Turkey, and above all from within by separatist movements, who could serve as fifth columnists in the event of another war. Initially prepared in late 1943, the ‘Chechevitsa’ — the plan to deport the entire indigenous native population of the Northern Caucasus to Central Asia — was carried out from mid-February until mid-March 1944. The People’s Commissar of Internal Affairs, Lavrentii Beriia, personally travelled to Grozny on 20 February to supervise the operation.

    According to the secret decree of the Supreme Soviet dated 7 March 1944, ‘On the Liquidation of the Checheno- Ingush ASSR and the Administrative Reorganization of the Territory’, the reason for the forced deportation was the alleged mass collaboration of the indigenous peoples of the Northern Caucasus with the Germans. This despite the fact that only a small part of Checheno-Ingushetia was actually ever occupied
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    Re: Chechen rebel leader claims he ordered attack on Moscow subway

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    ROFL - Why am I not surprised you're this misinformed? Here I'll explain to you what actually happened. The Chechens saw a chance for full independence while the Soviet Union was engaged in war with the Nazis. Their wish for independence dates back to nearly 400 years of Russian oppression. So they organized against the USSR. Knowing that Chechnya enjoyed oil reserves, Stalin decided deport them under the pretext that they were helping the Nazis. Seriously, we all know you're sexually illiterate but try picking up a history book:

    Foundation for Investigation of the Communist Crimes - Latest News - The Soviet War against `Fifth Columnists': The Case of Chechnya, 1942?4
    Hatuey !!! That was well done !!!! Well stated and so true !!! The Russians accused Georgians, Ukrainians, Beloruses, Latts, Liits, Estonians, some Armenians, maybe even Tatars and others of "collaboration " with Germans. There was even an ethnic Russian who fielded a division to fight against the Soviets.
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    Re: Chechen rebel leader claims he ordered attack on Moscow subway

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    Hatuey !!! That was well done !!!! Well stated and so true !!!
    I'm a big history buff. I've seen some of your posts. Try reading:

    [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Autopsy-Empire-Leaders-Soviet-Regime/dp/0684834200/ref=cm_lmf_tit_5"]Amazon.com: Autopsy for an Empire : The Seven Leaders Who Built the Soviet Regime (9780684834207): Dmitri Volkogonov: Books[/ame]

    Great book on Russian history of the last ~100 years.
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    Re: Chechen rebel leader claims he ordered attack on Moscow subway

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    You and other uninformed people always try to smear honest people such as I am with the false accusation of "cheering" Al Queada. You also smear the Chechen patriots who are fighting Russian imperilaism. Russian imperilaism and imperialistic Russians are not innocent. It is very true thatt Al Queada are terrorists but it is very true that the Chechen freedom fighters are not. The Chechens are fighting for their fereedom but the Russians are fighting to keep the Chechens in the Russian Gulag.
    You don't fight for your freedom by strapping on a bomb and board a train full of civilians and blow yourself up.

    The very fact you think that's acceptable sickens me.
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    Re: Chechen rebel leader claims he ordered attack on Moscow subway

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    ROFL - Why am I not surprised you're this misinformed? Here I'll explain to you what actually happened. The Chechens saw a chance for full independence while the Soviet Union was engaged in war with the Nazis. Their wish for independence dates back to nearly 400 years of Russian oppression. So they organized against the USSR. Knowing that Chechnya enjoyed oil reserves, Stalin decided deport them under the pretext that they were helping the Nazis. Seriously, we all know you're sexually illiterate but try picking up a history book:

    Foundation for Investigation of the Communist Crimes - Latest News - The Soviet War against `Fifth Columnists': The Case of Chechnya, 1942?4
    Are you really this dense?

    Did the very fact they sided with the nazis change AT ALL dispite your apologist references?

    Not one bit.

    All the excuses in your links will not change the fact they sided with the Nazis but thanks for the entertainment.


    Are you excusing this terrorist attack like F107HyperSabr Mr "big history buff?" Answer the question.

    And while you are brushing up on your history you should read about the Beslan school massacre where Chechen Islamic terrorists murdered nearly 200 children.
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    Re: Chechen rebel leader claims he ordered attack on Moscow subway

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I'm a big history buff. I've seen some of your posts. Try reading:

    Amazon.com: Autopsy for an Empire : The Seven Leaders Who Built the Soviet Regime (9780684834207): Dmitri Volkogonov: Books

    Great book on Russian history of the last ~100 years.
    I shall : Just accessed it looks interesting: This is a factual book about the THE UKRAINIAN DIVISION "GALICIA" which served in the German Army and men such as my uncle joined because they wanted to be part of a trained cadre of Ukrainian officers and NCO 's who they hoped would one day go up against the Soviets to free Ukraine. My Dad was with the political arm of the Ukrainian Insurgent Army since he did not want to serve in German uniform but he also wanted to fight the Russians. Two brothers, two paths, same goal- a free Ukraine - fight Russians.

    The Ukrainian Division "Galicia": The History of Its Formation and Military Operations (1943-1945)

    SYNOPSIS OF THE BOOK:

    THE UKRAINIAN DIVISION "GALICIA"

    THE HISTORY OF ITS FORMATION AND MILITARY OPERATIONS
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