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    Re: Bush-ordered wiretaps illegal, judge says

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    There's been a major shift in the media coverage. … they barely mentioned the fact that Obama is continuing the policy.
    So, where did you hear that Obama is continuing the policy? Media, yes?
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    Re: Bush-ordered wiretaps illegal, judge says

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    Where's the breaking news?
    It broke and you missed it.
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    Re: Bush-ordered wiretaps illegal, judge says

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    So, where did you hear that Obama is continuing the policy? Media, yes?
    Wel, . . . yes, . . .but don't let that destroy a good rant and serious misleading.



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    Re: Bush-ordered wiretaps illegal, judge says

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    So, where did you hear that Obama is continuing the policy? Media, yes?
    The coverage was about 1% of what Bush got, even though they no longer had to worry about tipping off terrorists.
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    Re: Bush-ordered wiretaps illegal, judge says

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    they no longer had to worry about tipping off terrorists.
    Has the media EVER concerned themselves with their stories tipping off anyone?
    Thank you

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    Re: Bush-ordered wiretaps illegal, judge says

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    It is my understanding that the case in question concerned the narrower argument whether the Executive Department's compliance with the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act's (FISA) provisions on electronic surveillance is mandatory. The court ruled that it is.

    FWIW, the relevant provisions of FISA that address warrantless surveillance can be found at:

    US CODE: Title 50,1802. Electronic surveillance authorization without court order; certification by Attorney General; reports to Congressional committees; transmittal under seal; duties and compensation of communication common carrier; applications;

    IMO, FISA is sufficiently robust and flexible to deal with the terrorist threat in a timely fashion, while safeguarding the basic constitutional rights of Americans. Therefore, I agree with the Court's ruling that compliance with FISA is mandatory and do not believe that the ruling should have any significant adverse impact on national security. Indeed, if its effect is to prioritize efforts based on the existence of reasonable evidence (necessary to obtain a court order), the benefits of focusing where such evidence exists might be greater than those associated with simply laying out a broad "net" with the hope of discovering something.
    Well said, and let me add that the law allows for wiretaps to be placed immediately, if there is a sufficient need, as long as a court order is then obtained with a reasonable period of time. There is absolutely no excuse for wiretapping without a court order.
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