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    Re: College Students Want 'Our Lord' Phrase Off Diplomas

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Already explained it twice. Please read the thread.
    ....so a Muslim student, wanting to remove the word 'God' from the diplomas of the school means this is the fault of liberalism? Are you really this intellectually dishonest? Or are you pretending to be?
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    Re: College Students Want 'Our Lord' Phrase Off Diplomas

    It's a private Christian school. They can fight the system, but be prepared to lose.

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    Re: College Students Want 'Our Lord' Phrase Off Diplomas

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    It's a private Christian school. They can fight the system, but be prepared to lose.
    I think the school wins on the grounds that these are graduating students. They have basically two choices. Graduate or not accept the diploma. I think they'll graduate.
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    Re: College Students Want 'Our Lord' Phrase Off Diplomas

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    ....so a Muslim student, wanting to remove the word 'God' from the diplomas of the school means this is the fault of liberalism? Are you really this intellectually dishonest? Or are you pretending to be?
    It's a reflex. It doesn't go through his brain.

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    Re: College Students Want 'Our Lord' Phrase Off Diplomas

    Done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventieth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven and of the Independence of the United States of America the twelfth.
    Boldness added for emphasis by me.

    This university has every right as a private institution to put "In the year of our Lord" on their diplomas, I would also argue that it's perfectly fine for state universities to do this too. America's most public document (The Constitution) has the exact words written in it
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    Re: College Students Want 'Our Lord' Phrase Off Diplomas

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Boldness added for emphasis by me.

    This university has every right as a private institution to put "In the year of our Lord" on their diplomas, I would also argue that it's perfectly fine for state universities to do this too. America's most public document (The Constitution) has the exact words written in it
    I think the key is removing that phrase is a small step toward the lowering of morals. Plus I feel it has historical significance. They are there to LEARN. Not to complain about these types of things.

    Look..... children in college should NOT be able to change the rules or regulations of a school. They are children that really have no life experiences. They can bitch and moan like all the generations before them on changing the school they are going to but they really should have zero influence there.
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    Re: College Students Want 'Our Lord' Phrase Off Diplomas

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    I think the key is removing that phrase is a small step toward the lowering of morals. Plus I feel it has historical significance. They are there to LEARN. Not to complain about these types of things.

    Look..... children in college should NOT be able to change the rules or regulations of a school. They are children that really have no life experiences. They can bitch and moan like all the generations before them on changing the school they are going to but they really should have zero influence there.
    I couldn't disagree more. As a student if my school is doing something that I don't feel is right as a student it is my responsibility to inform them of my opinion. As students we changed the rule that only 50 pages per semester could be printed from school printer for free, after that it was 12 cents per page. We wanted it to be 200 because a lot of our reading assignments are online and we are always told to bring them to class for discussion purposes. We got it changed to 100 pages per semester and the school is looking at what else they can do to help us.

    As student it is our responsibility to inform the school what we think it wrong with it so they can make it better.

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    Re: College Students Want 'Our Lord' Phrase Off Diplomas

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I think most liberals are pretty reasonable in terms of religion in public schools. Only the most fringe element want to remove the words "under god" from the pledge..., most of us have no problem with religious based clubs and so forth.
    So many people on DP seem very keen on the pronouncements of the 'Founders' of the US. Didn't the Founders (Washinton, Jefferson et al) decree that there should be a separation of church and state? Didn't they say that, "As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion"?

    Isn't pledging allegiance to a nation "under God" doing just that? If not, shouldn't the pledge refer to a nation also under Yahwey, Allah, the Buddha nature and the Hindu pantheon?

    Didn't Jefferson also say, "Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man and his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church and State."?

    When you say that "only the most fringe elements want to remove the words, "under God" are you referring to all those who don't recognise a Christian God?

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    Re: College Students Want 'Our Lord' Phrase Off Diplomas

    Look..... children in college should NOT be able to change the rules or regulations of a school. They are children that really have no life experiences. They can bitch and moan like all the generations before them on changing the school they are going to but they really should have zero influence there.
    These aren't children, they are legal adults. They have every right to speak up if they disagree with the way their school handles things. They are paying customers for their education, and have every right to question what happens with their money. While the owners of the school have the ultimate authority, the students should be encourage to communicate their desire to the administration.

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    Re: College Students Want 'Our Lord' Phrase Off Diplomas

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    I couldn't disagree more. As a student if my school is doing something that I don't feel is right as a student it is my responsibility to inform them of my opinion. As students we changed the rule that only 50 pages per semester could be printed from school printer for free, after that it was 12 cents per page. We wanted it to be 200 because a lot of our reading assignments are online and we are always told to bring them to class for discussion purposes. We got it changed to 100 pages per semester and the school is looking at what else they can do to help us.

    As student it is our responsibility to inform the school what we think it wrong with it so they can make it better.

    You are there to learn. You have no business in wasting your time in something OTHER than what you are there for. Your purpose is to learn there. Nothing more. Now what YOU did was related to academics. This topic we are speaking about NOW has NOTHING to do with that. (good job BTW)

    If you were my kid and I was paying for your schooling and I found out you were involved in some crap like this I would pull you out ASAP.

    Kids have to learn life lessons. Just like if you are at work.... you DONT worry about what other people are doing. You worry about YOUR job and YOUR work. You never ever complain to the boss or upper management about goofy crap like this. (unless you want to get fired soon) That is NOT your job.

    If you dont like it..... go to ANOTHER school. Stop wasting the time of the school and focus on the ONLY thing that should be important to you.
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