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    GOP wary of health law repeal push in fall races

    GOP wary of health law repeal push in fall races

    WASHINGTON -- Top Republicans are increasingly worried that GOP candidates this fall might be burned by a fire that's roaring through the conservative base: demand for the repeal of President Barack Obama's new health care law.

    It's fine to criticize the health law and the way Democrats pushed it through Congress without a single GOP vote, these party leaders say. But focusing on its outright repeal carries two big risks.

    Repeal is politically and legally unlikely, and grass-roots activists may feel disillusioned by a failed crusade. More important, say strategists from both parties, a fiercely repeal-the-bill stance might prove far less popular in a general election than in a conservative-dominated GOP primary, especially in states such as Illinois and California.
    It looks like top republicans are having second thoughts about the attractiveness of a "repeal the healthcare law" stance. My opinion is that if they don't go through with it, it will energize the tea parties even more. What are your thoughts?

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    Re: GOP wary of health law repeal push in fall races

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    It looks like top republicans are having second thoughts about the attractiveness of a "repeal the healthcare law" stance. My opinion is that if they don't go through with it, it will energize the tea parties even more. What are your thoughts?
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    Re: GOP wary of health law repeal push in fall races

    I've been saying the same thing for weeks. The GOP outcry has ZERO to do with actual attempts to repeal as it has to do with political posturing and grandstanding.
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    Re: GOP wary of health law repeal push in fall races

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I've been saying the same thing for weeks. The GOP outcry has ZERO to do with actual attempts to repeal as it has to do with political posturing and grandstanding.
    Well, sort of, you're half right. The other half of Americans (more than half) actually agree with repealing the bill. But since the bill likely won't be repealed, I still think "repeal the bill" sounds better than what will happen, "Gut the bill!"

    The bill must be gutted in order to make it fiscally responsible, understandable, and with no tax increases.

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    Re: GOP wary of health law repeal push in fall races

    Maybe they've read the writing on the wall and are contemplating earning their salaries and working with the Dems on legislature. After all, working against them has earned them no points. Hmmm....
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    Re: GOP wary of health law repeal push in fall races

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    Maybe they've read the writing on the wall and are contemplating earning their salaries and working with the Dems on legislature. After all, working against them has earned them no points. Hmmm....
    Very unlikely. Most likely is the reality that as of right now, Republicans have had and still have no say whatseover in American politics. Democrats might not have their year-long supermajority anymore, but they still hold a majority in both the House and Senate, and then of course you have Obama too.

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    Re: GOP wary of health law repeal push in fall races

    Quote Originally Posted by Politics101 View Post
    Very unlikely. Most likely is the reality that as of right now, Republicans have had and still have no say whatseover in American politics. Democrats might not have their year-long supermajority anymore, but they still hold a majority in both the House and Senate, and then of course you have Obama too.
    But, the truth is that Obama and the Dems did indeed try to work with the Repubs in the beginning. It was Mitch OConnell's self destructing strategy to not work with the Dems, no matter what, that forced the Dems to pass HCR the way they did. Repubs were on all the committees and many of their ideas were in the HCR. To continue in this failed direction will be to their detriment in November.
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    Re: GOP wary of health law repeal push in fall races

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    But, the truth is that Obama and the Dems did indeed try to work with the Repubs in the beginning. It was Mitch OConnell's self destructing strategy to not work with the Dems, no matter what, that forced the Dems to pass HCR the way they did. Repubs were on all the committees and many of their ideas were in the HCR. To continue in this failed direction will be to their detriment in November.
    You're looking at it wrong. The Democrats had a supermajority when this happened. I highly doubt they were going to compromise on anything; it was more likely a political stunt.

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    Re: GOP wary of health law repeal push in fall races

    Polling data likely suggests that a more focused course aimed at fixing/repealing specific parts of the law and/or addressing issues that the new law did not deal with might be more prudent from an electoral standpoint.

    Three highlights from a just released CNN/Opinion Research Corporation Poll:

    From Q16: How one feels about the legislation
    Approve of the legislation: 42%
    Disapprove of the legislation: 56%

    From Q17: What Congress should do
    Leave the bill as is: 23%
    Make additional changes that increase the government's role: 27%
    Repeal most of the major provisions: 47%

    From Q19: Impact on one/one's family
    Better off: 22%
    Worse off: 39%
    About the same: 37%

    In sum, although a small majority of American's disapproves of the legislation, the majority is not seeking repeal of most of its major provisions and only a significant minority expect to be worse off on account of that legislation's becoming law. Given those dynamics, a more focused approach may make more sense from an electoral standpoint, except in Congressional districts where the sentiment is overwhelmingly arrayed against the bill.

    My guess is that if the Republicans chose to try to undertake a national electoral strategy (not a certainty) e.g., along the lines of the Contract with America in 1994, Republicans can craft a common position that seeks to repeal specific provisions in the bill and sets forth specific changes that would replace those provisions. However, a position aimed at the law's full repeal is not likely to be endorsed by all Republican candidates if the data in the CNN poll reasonably represents public opinion (and it seems within the ballpark of some other health reform-related surveys). The electoral calculus differs from one Congressional District to another. Victory in many and, possibly most Districts depends on who best retains one's own base and who wins the majority of Independent voters.

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    Re: GOP wary of health law repeal push in fall races

    If it is not repealed the Nation will go down with a whimper because of the Socialist/Marxist agenda that is set to destroy the economy right after Der Fuhrer in Chief forces his Cap and Trade nonsense through with the help of the brain dead Liberals.

    In the words of Sir Winston Churchill: Those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it.

    There has never been in history a Socialist/Marxist government that survived the test of time and many ended in violence and the deaths of untold numbers of innocents many were exceedingly stupid and thought they were doing the right thing.

    With any luck Nov. elections, will at the very least put an end to Obama's agenda of deception and destruction before it's too late.

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