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    Re: Sarkozy's chilly visit to America

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    the above post is reality. the OP's article is a reach to paint Obama in a negative light

    given his weakened political standing at home, sarkozy NEEDS to be seen as Obama's buddy. he so wants some of that cache to rub off
    the french are much too clever to fall for it (... please don't make me eat those words come election time)
    Interesting thread given that last year Sarkozy was applauded for "not drinking the kool aid" after Obama's trip to Europe.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/us-par...-doghouse.html


    So which is it?

    And why don't Republicans remember "freedom fries" and O'Reilly's call to boycott anything French? Or all the snarky comments about John Kerry "looking French"?

    Globalist - The Republicans' barb - John Kerry 'looks French' - NYTimes.com

    But perhaps the surest indication that the looming political season will be ugly has come from repeated Republican suggestions that Kerry "looks French."

    Not only that: the senator is said to betray a dubious fondness for things French, even the language. A recent comment from Commerce Secretary Don Evans that the Massachusetts Democrat is "of a different political stripe and looks French" was only the latest of several jibes, mainly from conservative talk-show hosts and columnists, that have included allusions to "Monsieur Kerry" and "Jean Chéri."

    For some months now, the Republican House majority leader, Tom DeLay, has been opening speeches to supporters with an occasional routine. He says hi, then adds: "Or, as John Kerry might say, 'Bonjour.'"

    The remark "always brings the house down," said DeLay's spokesman, Stuart Roy, who added that its purpose was to highlight "Mr. Kerry's lack of support for the war on terror and the way he seems to be in agreement with the arguments of the French."

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    Re: Sarkozy's chilly visit to America

    Americans have different interests from the French. The United States has its own vision, just as France does. The United States also has a different outlook in comparison with a growing number of Europeans.

    Geopolitical realities are finally coming to light to some Americans who somehow believed Obama would magically create an international playground where at night all would gather and sing kumbaya.
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    Re: Sarkozy's chilly visit to America

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    This is not altogether surprising. Obama's Kenyan connections would probably dictate that he does not see Churchill with the same rosy hue of nostalgia that previous residents of the White House would have done. Churchill was British PM at the beginning of the Mau Mau rebellion in Kenya where the British killed around 20,000 people protesting and rebelling in order to win their independence from the Empire. Perhaps members of Obama's own family lost their lives as a result of Churchill's imperialism.
    Well you make a very good point, But if Obama wants to be viewed as a leader of the west then he needs to start acting like it. Everybody has that sad story. I'm part Native American and i don't harbor ill feelings towards Europeans.

    Obama needs to man up and stop actin like a little pussy.

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    quote(This is very disturbing. Obama came with the promise of working together with friends and allies and one after the other all European leaders are losing faith in the new administration. Poland and the Czech Republic were outraged at Obama's going back on US promises of basing missile defense batteries in their countries. Germany's Merkel has voiced her displeasure with some of Obama's moves. And now even Sarkozi, perhaps Obama's biggest supporter a year ago, seems vexed by Obama's statements and some of his actions. With all of the world's problems America should be working more closely with its closest allies, not alienating them. I am very confused by all this.)

    Obama is acting exactly as any other lieing Communist believer would act, he plays off one side against another side.

    Result is that because he has told so many lies to so many people over course of his career he is unable to remember what he says to everyone.

    So he FLIP FLOPS.

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    Re: Sarkozy's chilly visit to America

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Geopolitical realities are finally coming to light to some Americans who somehow believed Obama would magically create an international playground where at night all would gather and sing kumbaya.
    That's good.
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    Re: Sarkozy's chilly visit to America

    Quote Originally Posted by Rachel View Post
    It's sad that's what it is.

    I hope Obama will learn from his mistakes and maybe replace some of his advisors. Although the feeling of disappointment is perhaps natural since expectations for this president were so high, but still he has offended many friendly countries and he will need their help in the coming years to solve some of the world's urgent problems.
    Personaly, I think he is doing it on purpose..... what that purpose is, I have no idea.

    For a head of government to visit the White House and not pose for photographers is rare. For a key ally to be left to his own devices while the President withdraws to have dinner in private was, until this week, unheard of. Yet that is how Binyamin Netanyahu was treated by President Obama on Tuesday night, according to Israeli reports on a trip viewed in Jerusalem as a humiliation.
    Binyamin Netanyahu humiliated after Barack Obama 'dumped him for dinner' - Times Online

    I think this would come under the heading of "things you wouldn't do, even to your mother-in-law".
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

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    We are still seeing the development of an Obama foreign policy. My best guess is that Obama is going to realize, or has already to some degree, that he is not able to diplomatically craft a unified Euro-American agenda implementation.
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    Re: Sarkozy's chilly visit to America

    Quote Originally Posted by PonyBoy View Post
    Well you make a very good point, But if Obama wants to be viewed as a leader of the west then he needs to start acting like it. Everybody has that sad story. I'm part Native American and i don't harbor ill feelings towards Europeans.

    Obama needs to man up and stop actin like a little pussy.
    If not acting like a pussy goes so far as to dictate what art you display on the walls of your home and/or office then politics is in deep do-do. If Obama prefers to have photos of Jomo Kenyata, Kwame N'kruma and Pandit Nehru on his walls then good for him. It says nothing about how well he does his job, what alliances he makes or what foreign policy he adopts. Taking Churchill off his wall doesn't mean he harbours ill-feeling towards the British. You'll be hard pressed to find a portrait of Churchill in many British town halls.

    There are some issues to address regarding the Obama regime's foreign policy agenda but bringing Churchill into it just demeans the debate.
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    Re: Sarkozy's chilly visit to America

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    If not acting like a pussy goes so far as to dictate what art you display on the walls of your home and/or office then politics is in deep do-do. If Obama prefers to have photos of Jomo Kenyata, Kwame N'kruma and Pandit Nehru on his walls then good for him. It says nothing about how well he does his job, what alliances he makes or what foreign policy he adopts. Taking Churchill off his wall doesn't mean he harbours ill-feeling towards the British. You'll be hard pressed to find a portrait of Churchill in many British town halls.

    There are some issues to address regarding the Obama regime's foreign policy agenda but bringing Churchill into it just demeans the debate.
    This is not altogether surprising. Obama's Kenyan connections would probably dictate that he does not see Churchill with the same rosy hue of nostalgia that previous residents of the White House would have done. Churchill was British PM at the beginning of the Mau Mau rebellion in Kenya where the British killed around 20,000 people protesting and rebelling in order to win their independence from the Empire. Perhaps members of Obama's own family lost their lives as a result of Churchill's imperialism.

    ^ You sure didn't mind discussing Churchill before so why is it demeaning now?

    Question: How do you know what's hanging in the British town halls?

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    Re: Sarkozy's chilly visit to America

    Quote Originally Posted by PonyBoy View Post
    This is not altogether surprising. Obama's Kenyan connections would probably dictate that he does not see Churchill with the same rosy hue of nostalgia that previous residents of the White House would have done. Churchill was British PM at the beginning of the Mau Mau rebellion in Kenya where the British killed around 20,000 people protesting and rebelling in order to win their independence from the Empire. Perhaps members of Obama's own family lost their lives as a result of Churchill's imperialism.

    ^ You sure didn't mind discussing Churchill before so why is it demeaning now?

    Question: How do you know what's hanging in the British town halls?
    The issue is a non-issue. I was pointing out why Obama might remove Churchill's portraits from the walls of the White House. I wasn't claiming that it amounted to a pile of beans in foreign policy terms. I don't think it does, but clearly someone who thought it worth reporting, did.

    Secondly, I have spent many a long hour in many, many British town halls over the years. I may live in Spain now but I worked for several British municipalities in the course of my former career(s). I remember very well (1985, I believe) when the portrait of Churchill was removed from the walls of Manchester Town Hall. That would be Manchester, Britain's second city!
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