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Marine's dad ordered to pay protesters' court fees but says he won't

Navy Pride said:
I hate to say it but the judges in the 4th circuit were right on this issue......As disgusting as it was the scum are protected by the 1st amdentment..........That is one of the problems with you liberals.....You like to pick and chose on first amendment issues........Well it does not work that way.......
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I think you really need to go back and read this thread Navy before piping in. You will notice a kinda lack of a pattern between people upset and their lean. It has brought both sides together.
 
One of you Libs said the judges were appointed by GWB....Well Presidents make mistakes.......His father nominated David Soutar, one of the biggest lefties to ever sit on the bench.......

If we only had that appointment back.......
 
Navy Pride said:
I hate to say it but the judges in the 4th circuit were right on this issue......As disgusting as it was the scum are protected by the 1st amdentment..........That is one of the problems with you liberals.....You like to pick and chose on first amendment issues........Well it does not work that way.......

The father will probably lose in the SCOTUS to....
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You're right. We can all agree, it shouldn't be this way. But the fact is that it is this way.

If there IS a heaven, I would love to be the proverbial fly on the wall that watches Saint Peter tell the Phelp's cult, "To hell with you all."

He who laughs last, laughs best.
 
Redress said:
I think you really need to go back and read this thread Navy before piping in. You will notice a kinda lack of a pattern between people upset and their lean. It has brought both sides together.
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Wrong I just saw aps bitching about the judges....try again........
 
Captain America said:
You're right. We can all agree, it shouldn't be this way. But the fact is that it is this way.

If there IS a heaven, I would love to be the proverbial fly on the wall that watches Saint Peter tell the Phelp's cult, "To hell with you all."

He who laughs last, laughs best.
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Hey he is a ****ing asshole....People stretch the dfeinition of the first amendment and these things happen.....


As horrible as it is paying the court fees is correct to...That is the way the courts do it......Thee loser pays court costs........I also heard the father petitioned late to defer costs.......
 
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Navy Pride said:
Wrong I just saw aps bitching about the judges....try again........
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aps is a pattern now? I think you might break out a dictionary and look the word up....
 
Redress said:
aps is a pattern now? I think you might break out a dictionary and look the word up....
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I am just giving you and example......even you can figure that out, not.....
 
Navy Pride said:
Hey he is a ****ing asshole....People stretch the dfeinition of the first amendment and these things happen.....


As horrible as it is paying the court fees is correct to...That is the way the courts do it......Thee loser pays court costs........I also heard the father petitioned late to defer costs.......
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That's all true. I would bet you a dollar to a donut that the judges were fuming, having to do it. They gotta have human feelings too. But the law is the tie that binds.

I would support any legistator who would address and correct situations such as these but that might actually do more harm than good.

I bet somebody, somehere, puts up a PayPal website where people can donate to give this poor man some relief. American's have big hearts.

I hope you enjoyed your fish this evening. Happy Good Friday to you Chief.
 
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Navy Pride said:
I am just giving you and example......even you can figure that out, not.....
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I do not like the decision to make the guy pay. Several other liberals do not like the decision. Several conservatives do not like the decision. Now your point to bring up one person is? Do I need to list out names?
 
Redress said:
I do not like the decision to make the guy pay. Several other liberals do not like the decision. Several conservatives do not like the decision. Now your point to bring up one person is? Do I need to list out names?
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I don't think you'll find many people, on any side of any coin, that LIKES the decision.

It just happens to be the law. Lot's of people do like having laws.

Sometimes though, laws come back to bite you in the ass.
 
Captain America said:
That's all true. I would bet you a dollar to a donut that the judges were fuming, having to do it. They gotta have human feelings too. But the law is the tie that binds.

I would support any legistator who would address and correct situations such as these but that might actually do more harm than good.

I bet somebody, somehere, puts up a PayPal website where people can donate to give this poor man some relief. American's have big hearts.

I hope you enjoyed your fish this evening. Happy Good Friday to you Chief.
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Oreilly is paying ths court costs and has set up a web site to defray costs for the the SCOTUS.......If I can find the site I will post it........
 
Navy Pride said:
Oreilly is paying ths court costs and has set up a web site to defray costs for the the SCOTUS.......If I can find the site I will post it........
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I'm good for twenty.
 
Redress said:
I do not like the decision to make the guy pay. Several other liberals do not like the decision. Several conservatives do not like the decision. Now your point to bring up one person is? Do I need to list out names?
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As to the court costs That is the law......you don't like the law change it.simple......
 
Captain America said:
I don't think you'll find many people, on any side of any coin, that LIKES the decision.

It just happens to be the law. Lot's of people do like having laws.

Sometimes though, laws come back to bite you in the ass.
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The question, and I asked this earlier, is if the law requires or allows the judge to decide the loser pays. If it is not a requirement, then to my mind it is a bad decision.
 
Navy Pride said:
As to the court costs That is the law......you don't like it change it.simple......
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I think that, overall, it is good to hold the court costs over the heads of those who file the complaints as well as the defendants. It promotes out of court settlements as well as discourages bogus lawsuits.

It is rare that this law backfires in such a way as this.

But I think there should be discretionary leeway clauses. If that is at all possible.
 
Navy Pride said:
As to the court costs That is the law......you don't like the law change it.simple......
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Which has nothing to do with what I said, nor does it address the point. You are almost the only one to make this a partisan thing.
 
Redress said:
The question, and I asked this earlier, is if the law requires or allows the judge to decide the loser pays. If it is not a requirement, then to my mind it is a bad decision.
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They had a constittional lawyer on Oreilly last night and she said the loser pays the court costs..........
 
Redress said:
Which has nothing to do with what I said, nor does it address the point. You are almost the only one to make this a partisan thing.
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Oh listen to the non partisan.......:rofl I am just telling the truth and you can't handle it........
 
Navy Pride said:
Oh listen to the non partisan.......:rofl I am just telling the truth and you can't handle it........
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Yes, you have such a reputation for that....

SO go on Navy, show this pattern of liberals in this thread you claim exists. Just once, back up your words...
 
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Navy Pride said:
They had a constittional lawyer on Oreilly last night and she said the loser pays the court costs..........
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When all those state's sue Obamacare, guess who's gonna get stuck with the lawyer bill? The winners? The losers?

You know what the constitutional lawyers are saying about that. Yet, they intend on proceeding anyways.

They say intentional tort only makes up for less than 3% wasteful medical spending. Still, for peace of mind, I wish they would hold the lawyer's feet to the fire, none the less. But asking a democrat to spank a lawyer is like asking a republican to spank a CEO.
 
Captain America said:
When all those state's sue Obamacare, guess who's gonna get stuck with the lawyer bill? The winners? The losers?
You know what the constitutional lawyers are saying about that. Yet, they intend on proceeding anyways.

They say intentional tort only makes up for less than 3% wasteful medical spending. Still, for peace of mind, I wish they would hold the lawyer's feet to the fire, none the less. But asking a democrat to spank a lawyer is like asking a republican to spank a CEO.
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What is ironic is our AG here is Washington is in the lawsuit against the wishes of the Governor and most of the democrat controlled legislature......The guy has some big gonads...........

Something is wrong somewhere when your government can make you buy something then if you don't fine you for not doing so.......
 
Navy Pride said:
For once try to stay on topic.........I know its hard......
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Navy Pride said:
What is ironic is our AG here is Washington is in the lawsuit against the wishes of the Governor and most of the democrat controlled legislature......The guy has some big gonads...........

Something is wrong somewhere when your government can make you buy something then if you don't fine you for not doing so.......
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I found this amusing...
 
Redress said:
Yes, you have such a reputation for that....

SO go on Navy, show this pattern of liberals in this thread you claim exists. Just once, back up your words...
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Like I said all you lefties are always citing the first amendment unless it disagrees with your issue.......
 
Navy Pride said:
What is ironic is our AG here is Washington is in the lawsuit against the wishes of the Governor and most of the democrat controlled legislature......The guy has some big gonads...........

Something is wrong somewhere when your government can make you buy something then if you don't fine you for not doing so.......
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Like a fishing license? Car insurance?

I know, I know. I can choose to not go fishing or drive my car. But you get my drift.

Myself, I'm as charitable as the next guy but I'm tired of paying for other people to have kid's and then paying for their kid's to eat and have health care. I'm not saying we should turn them away but if we gotta take care of 'em anyways, then take their premiums out of their tax return, that they usually get 100% of, back, anyways.

I'm all for lending a helping hand for those in need. But too many people mistake charity for entitlement. They think they are owed. Working the system IS their job. Government cheese sucks.
 
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