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    Re: Nine Charged in Bullying of Massachusetts Teen Who Killed Herself

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Yes yes yes, I couldn't possibly understand because I was never a teen and certainly never bullied as a teen. I came from a cabbage patch all grow'd up and everyone has always been nothing but nice to me.
    I didn't say that. What I am saying is you are using examples in managing these situations that may work fine for adults, but tend to NOT work for teens. We are talking about an age group that is far more impulsive, emotional and susceptible to peer pressure and peer acceptance. Do all teens fall in this category? No, but to some extent the vast majority.
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    Re: Nine Charged in Bullying of Massachusetts Teen Who Killed Herself

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    That attitude only enables bullying to continue.
    No, that attitude stops bullying from continuing.

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    Re: Nine Charged in Bullying of Massachusetts Teen Who Killed Herself

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Well, I couldn't handle them physically, and I knew that. Six of them, one of me, I would have been a bloody mess. I mean, we're talking small town WV, up in the holler gals.

    But, I had something they didn't have... the ability to remain calm no matter how upset I was. And make no mistake, I was scared ****less in that incident. I did NOT want to get into a fight with them, I knew what the outcome would be.

    Having moved around so much as a kid, though, I was pretty used to being picked on as the "new girl". I was *always* the new girl. So, I learned and adapted. Don't give the reaction they want, and they stop trying to get said reaction. After all, it only makes THEM look bad when you don't react the way they want you too. Why would they keep making themselves look bad? LOL It's embarrassing.
    That's true. Guys dont tend to jump each other in packs. It's usually a more one on one situation. And guys also tend to turn on each other when they smell weakness. Even if there is a group, if you just make one of them cry, the rest start laughing at him and leave you alone.

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    Re: Nine Charged in Bullying of Massachusetts Teen Who Killed Herself

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Doesn't that go both ways?
    Absolutely. I'm NOT blaming the "bullies" for the girl committing suicide. That was HER responsibility, based on her issues. Not everyone in her situation would have made that choice. This was a series and a combination of bad things that brought on this conclusion. Mean kids whose bullying was severe and unchecked, with a girl who obviously had some psychological issues, thrown together with the unique culture of teenagers. Bad combination of things. I just think that by not looking at each of these things misses part of the story, here.
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    Re: Nine Charged in Bullying of Massachusetts Teen Who Killed Herself

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    No, that attitude stops bullying from continuing.
    Give that advice to the wrong person, in the wrong situation, and they could get their ass kicked, get seriously injured or get killed. Had rivrrat taken your advice she would have been messed up, encouraging the bullies to do it again. Fighting back will sometimes work. Sometimes it's like tossing gas on a burning ember.
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    Re: Nine Charged in Bullying of Massachusetts Teen Who Killed Herself

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Absolutely. I'm NOT blaming the "bullies" for the girl committing suicide. That was HER responsibility, based on her issues. Not everyone in her situation would have made that choice. This was a series and a combination of bad things that brought on this conclusion. Mean kids whose bullying was severe and unchecked, with a girl who obviously had some psychological issues, thrown together with the unique culture of teenagers. Bad combination of things. I just think that by not looking at each of these things misses part of the story, here.
    That's where I am coming from. I think these girls are culpable for their bullying. They should get the normal treatment that bullies get which is suspension or expulsion for the year, if it was bad enough.

    But now that this disturbed young lady has committed suicide, it seems that their consequences have been ramped up to match the reaction of the community and not to be commensurate with their culpability.

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    Re: Nine Charged in Bullying of Massachusetts Teen Who Killed Herself

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    get seriously injured or get killed.
    Not likely.

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    Re: Nine Charged in Bullying of Massachusetts Teen Who Killed Herself

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    That's true. Guys dont tend to jump each other in packs. It's usually a more one on one situation. And guys also tend to turn on each other when they smell weakness. Even if there is a group, if you just make one of them cry, the rest start laughing at him and leave you alone.
    You're not a counselor, are you? So many sterotypes. So many inaccuracies.
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    Re: Nine Charged in Bullying of Massachusetts Teen Who Killed Herself

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    That's where I am coming from. I think these girls are culpable for their bullying. They should get the normal treatment that bullies get which is suspension or expulsion for the year, if it was bad enough.

    But now that this disturbed young lady has committed suicide, it seems that their consequences have been ramped up to match the reaction of the community and not to be commensurate with their culpability.
    Have you looked at the evidence in the case to make this assertion?

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    Re: Nine Charged in Bullying of Massachusetts Teen Who Killed Herself

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    You're not a counselor, are you? So many sterotypes. So many inaccuracies.
    What I am or am not is irrelevant. What would be relevant are statistics saying that standing up to bullies results in death. Good luck with that.

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