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    Re: Nine Charged in Bullying of Massachusetts Teen Who Killed Herself

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    You don't have to be an 80th degree super ninja from Sgt Stinger's dojo to give a bully a good smack in the mouth. And one is usually all it takes for most bullies.
    That's a noble concept that I can get behind, however, I think that maybe, just maybe, you haven't been around a whole lotta hay-haulin', cornfed goatroapers in your life. Some of those boys, that ram their heads into goal posts for fun, are pretty dog-gone stout !

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    Re: Nine Charged in Bullying of Massachusetts Teen Who Killed Herself

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    That's a noble concept that I can get behind, however, I think that maybe, just maybe, you haven't been around a whole lotta hay-haulin', cornfed goatroapers in your life. Some of those boys, that ram their heads into goal posts for fun, are pretty dog-gone stout !

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    I grew up on a tobacco farm. I know the type you are talking about. They are usually the biggest pussies when actually confronted.

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    Re: Nine Charged in Bullying of Massachusetts Teen Who Killed Herself

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I grew up on a tobacco farm. I know the type you are talking about. They are usually the biggest pussies when actually confronted.
    Really?

    The Texas redneck goatroapers I knew were like catfish. You could cut their heads off and they STILL didn't know they were dead.

    But, like you said, once they got bitch slapped once or twice, they do quit coming around.

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    Re: Nine Charged in Bullying of Massachusetts Teen Who Killed Herself

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I grew up on a tobacco farm. I know the type you are talking about. They are usually the biggest pussies when actually confronted.
    Of course they are. That's why they only confront people with their loyal followers.

    When I was 14, I had a group of bully type gals who disliked me in high school. (well, many, actually - girls didn't like me much) But anywho, this particular group was known for jumping the gals they didn't like as a group - of course. They caught me at the local hangout one night by myself and proceeded to mouth off, and mouth off, and mouth off. Namecalling, threats, long lectures on how terrible I was, etc, etc. (I slept a guy one of them had a thing for - sorry about her luck LOL)

    I stood there and didn't say a word as they did their best to verbally berate me and hope that I responded with anything that would warrant a physical response from them.

    I didn't say a word the whole time. Stood there patiently waiting for them to finish. When they did, I asked the "head" gal if she was done. She looked confused and said, ".. yeah.. "

    "Good", I said. I turned around and walked off without another word.

    They followed me down the street, screaming at me and throwing things. I ignored them and continued walking at a normal pace. Eventually, they ran out of steam and realized that they were not going to get the reaction they wanted. I wasn't going to cry. I wasn't going to beg them to stop. I wasn't going to run. I wasn't going to initiate a physical encounter. There was nothing they were able to do or say that was going to get a reaction out of me. (aside from actually striking me) So, they gave up.

    They never did it again, either. Though I had plenty of other gals who "called me out" over the years in school. I treated them with the same apathy.

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    Re: Nine Charged in Bullying of Massachusetts Teen Who Killed Herself

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Of course they are. That's why they only confront people with their loyal followers.

    When I was 14, I had a group of bully type gals who disliked me in high school. (well, many, actually - girls didn't like me much) But anywho, this particular group was known for jumping the gals they didn't like as a group - of course. They caught me at the local hangout one night by myself and proceeded to mouth off, and mouth off, and mouth off. Namecalling, threats, long lectures on how terrible I was, etc, etc. (I slept a guy one of them had a thing for - sorry about her luck LOL)

    I stood there and didn't say a word as they did their best to verbally berate me and hope that I responded with anything that would warrant a physical response from them.

    I didn't say a word the whole time. Stood there patiently waiting for them to finish. When they did, I asked the "head" gal if she was done. She looked confused and said, ".. yeah.. "

    "Good", I said. I turned around and walked off without another word.

    They followed me down the street, screaming at me and throwing things. I ignored them and continued walking at a normal pace. Eventually, they ran out of steam and realized that they were not going to get the reaction they wanted. I wasn't going to cry. I wasn't going to beg them to stop. I wasn't going to run. I wasn't going to initiate a physical encounter. There was nothing they were able to do or say that was going to get a reaction out of me. (aside from actually striking me) So, they gave up.

    They never did it again, either. Though I had plenty of other gals who "called me out" over the years in school. I treated them with the same apathy.
    That's pretty much how I handled guys that acted the same way except it tended to get a little more physical sometimes. I had absolutely no problem trying to seriously injure anyone who touched me. I don't like being touched. You can say whatever you want and that's fine. That's your right. But the minute you enter my space and your hand lands somewhere on my body, I will see red and won't stop until you stop moving or get out of my reach. This was something that was common knowledge by the 5th week of our freshman year and I never really had to prove that point again.

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    Re: Nine Charged in Bullying of Massachusetts Teen Who Killed Herself

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    I was talking about teens too.
    Then you'd be wrong about that, then. There is a distinct difference between how teens can and do handle situations like this, then how adults can and do. Teens', based on their developmental level are more impulsive, emotional, and react to these things far more easily than adults. Very different situation.
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    Re: Nine Charged in Bullying of Massachusetts Teen Who Killed Herself

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Then you'd be wrong about that, then. There is a distinct difference between how teens can and do handle situations like this, then how adults can and do. Teens', based on their developmental level are more impulsive, emotional, and react to these things far more easily than adults. Very different situation.
    Yes yes yes, I couldn't possibly understand because I was never a teen and certainly never bullied as a teen. I came from a cabbage patch all grow'd up and everyone has always been nothing but nice to me.

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    Re: Nine Charged in Bullying of Massachusetts Teen Who Killed Herself

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Then you'd be wrong about that, then. There is a distinct difference between how teens can and do handle situations like this, then how adults can and do. Teens', based on their developmental level are more impulsive, emotional, and react to these things far more easily than adults. Very different situation.
    Doesn't that go both ways?

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    Re: Nine Charged in Bullying of Massachusetts Teen Who Killed Herself

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Emotions are what we cannot consciously control that filters through our mental structures. Because we can change those mental structures, we can to a degree control our emotions.
    No, we cannot. We can control our interpretations and how we respond to those emotions, as we can control how we react to stimuli. But one cannot control how they feel.

    Moreover, emotions have more in common with sensory input than conscious thought, in that we have the choice to either recognize and accept those emotions or to ignore them and not allow them to get the best of us. Our mind is structured in such a way that, while we have limited control over our emotions, we do have a choice on how we deal with them.
    This is not controlling emotions. This is controlling one's reactions to those emotions.

    Essentially I guess I am agreeing with your first paragraph, but that doesn't in my opinion touch on what I am saying, really. You've made some claims that I agree with, and that I think were implied in my post that you quoted, but towards the end you go on discussing the "strong potential". I understand that if we take humans in their normal state, which is generally not conscious of their mental faculties and the power that their mind can have over their emotions, we can draw conclusions about how people will act in certain situations, and of course having depression is going to increase the probability of suicide in that case. However, that's irrelevant to my point.

    As for the "hard wired" thing, I don't think that's really accurate. I think that people develop these mental structures throughout their lives, and that some are more entrenched and difficult to change than others, but that in the long run they are all malleable to conscious will, and so I disagree with the idea of "hard wiring".
    Well, in my experience, I completely disagree. Some folks are genetically predisposed to certain psychological disorders. Their experiences can then affect how they deal with these things, but the predisposition, or "hard wiring" remains.
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    Re: Nine Charged in Bullying of Massachusetts Teen Who Killed Herself

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    That's pretty much how I handled guys that acted the same way except it tended to get a little more physical sometimes. I had absolutely no problem trying to seriously injure anyone who touched me. I don't like being touched. You can say whatever you want and that's fine. That's your right. But the minute you enter my space and your hand lands somewhere on my body, I will see red and won't stop until you stop moving or get out of my reach. This was something that was common knowledge by the 5th week of our freshman year and I never really had to prove that point again.
    Well, I couldn't handle them physically, and I knew that. Six of them, one of me, I would have been a bloody mess. I mean, we're talking small town WV, up in the holler gals.

    But, I had something they didn't have... the ability to remain calm no matter how upset I was. And make no mistake, I was scared ****less in that incident. I did NOT want to get into a fight with them, I knew what the outcome would be.

    Having moved around so much as a kid, though, I was pretty used to being picked on as the "new girl". I was *always* the new girl. So, I learned and adapted. Don't give the reaction they want, and they stop trying to get said reaction. After all, it only makes THEM look bad when you don't react the way they want you too. Why would they keep making themselves look bad? LOL It's embarrassing.
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