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    Re: Nine Charged in Bullying of Massachusetts Teen Who Killed Herself

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    Well I know in my case when my parents finally were able to convince the school to address the problem, the parents of the students said I was making it all up.
    Their idiocy doesn't surprise me, and I expect the parents of these bullies to be equally clueless, though it's going to be a bit difficult for them to deny or rationalize the facebook mocking of the girl's death.

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    Re: Nine Charged in Bullying of Massachusetts Teen Who Killed Herself

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    This is why people should just learn to fight well enough to defend themselves from crap like that. Beat these girls asses, and they'll eventually stop.
    Not everyone CAN physically fight though, and even if you can, that doesn't work quite as well with girls, I don't think. Then there's also the fact that, sadly, under zero tolerance policies, a victim physically fighting back against bullies would be a hell of a lot more likely to incur disciplinary action than every nasty incidence of bullying they committed.

    Unfortunately, a lot of bullying victims are in a no-win situation. Fight back, be disciplined. Report the bullies, be harrassed for reporting them. Try to ignore them, they'll often escalate in an attempt to get a reaction. We shouldn't expect the bullied to solve the problem, quite often just getting through the day is hard enough for them.

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    Re: Nine Charged in Bullying of Massachusetts Teen Who Killed Herself

    Yeah for sure. I think the zero tolerances for fighting thing is a mistake. Sometimes people get in scruffs. Now it's all dependent upon conditions and school and stuff; but not all fighting is bad. Sometimes fighting makes the bully shut his big fat mouth.
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    Re: Nine Charged in Bullying of Massachusetts Teen Who Killed Herself

    Can we just put some perspective on this?

    First of all, hanging yourself in a closet is a very extreme reaction by a teenager to "Nobody likes me!!!"

    At different times in our teenage lives, we all felt that way. And who hasn't been the object of some bullying at varying times? Really? Seriously? Who hasn't been party to or the object of some bullying?

    It's part of growing up. It's not a very pleasant aspect of being a kid but it's just part and parcel of the maturing experience. Kids are mean. We all know this. No creature reverts to its primal sadistic state with such alacrity and glee as a kid outside the presence of adults. It's about pecking order and social dominance and just the fact that you are dealing with immature little snots. But it is what it is.

    Has anyone stopped to think that maybe these kids didn't do much more than any other kids at any other school but this time their bullying is being magnified as a cause to keep from addressing that Phoebe may have had some compounding stresses or mental illness that caused her to take her own life?

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    Re: Nine Charged in Bullying of Massachusetts Teen Who Killed Herself

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Can we just put some perspective on this?

    First of all, hanging yourself in a closet is a very extreme reaction by a teenager to "Nobody likes me!!!"

    At different times in our teenage lives, we all felt that way. And who hasn't been the object of some bullying at varying times? Really? Seriously? Who hasn't been party to or the object of some bullying?

    It's part of growing up. It's not a very pleasant aspect of being a kid but it's just part and parcel of the maturing experience. Kids are mean. We all know this. No creature reverts to its primal sadistic state with such alacrity and glee as a kid outside the presence of adults. It's about pecking order and social dominance and just the fact that you are dealing with immature little snots. But it is what it is.

    Has anyone stopped to think that maybe these kids didn't do much more than any other kids at any other school but this time their bullying is being magnified as a cause to keep from addressing that Phoebe may have had some compounding stresses or mental illness that caused her to take her own life?
    being raped and physically assaulted is not the same as "nobody likes me".....

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    Re: Nine Charged in Bullying of Massachusetts Teen Who Killed Herself

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Can we just put some perspective on this?

    First of all, hanging yourself in a closet is a very extreme reaction by a teenager to "Nobody likes me!!!"
    Not sure you're up on all the facts of the case -- you might change your mind.

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    Re: Nine Charged in Bullying of Massachusetts Teen Who Killed Herself

    Pretty shocking story. I never believed something like this could be possible. Or go this far.

    Guess the movies sometimes are not completely wrong...

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    Re: Nine Charged in Bullying of Massachusetts Teen Who Killed Herself

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    being raped and physically assaulted is not the same as "nobody likes me".....
    The rape part may very well have been the root cause of her taking her own life.

    Physically assaulted is just hyper-inflated code for "the kids were fighting".

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    Re: Nine Charged in Bullying of Massachusetts Teen Who Killed Herself

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Not sure you're up on all the facts of the case -- you might change your mind.
    I am well aware of the compounding reason for this girl's issues.

    I am not sure these kids should be charged and prosecuted for behaving like kids.

    The rapist is who I would go after.

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    Re: Nine Charged in Bullying of Massachusetts Teen Who Killed Herself

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Can we just put some perspective on this?

    First of all, hanging yourself in a closet is a very extreme reaction by a teenager to "Nobody likes me!!!"

    At different times in our teenage lives, we all felt that way. And who hasn't been the object of some bullying at varying times? Really? Seriously? Who hasn't been party to or the object of some bullying?

    It's part of growing up. It's not a very pleasant aspect of being a kid but it's just part and parcel of the maturing experience. Kids are mean. We all know this. No creature reverts to its primal sadistic state with such alacrity and glee as a kid outside the presence of adults. It's about pecking order and social dominance and just the fact that you are dealing with immature little snots. But it is what it is.

    Has anyone stopped to think that maybe these kids didn't do much more than any other kids at any other school but this time their bullying is being magnified as a cause to keep from addressing that Phoebe may have had some compounding stresses or mental illness that caused her to take her own life?
    Well, there's ostracism and the popular girls tittering behind their hands at you, and then there's daily harrassment, physical abuse and sexual violence. Most instances of bullying are somewhere in the middle, but when you hear someone's taken their own life over "bullying", unless you have the deatils, you really can't know exactly what they've been dealing with.
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