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    Re: Nine Charged in Bullying of Massachusetts Teen Who Killed Herself

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i don't think so. teasing is one thing, stalking and harassment are different. i think it's too bad she or her parents didn't go to the police.
    I wonder if they didn't go to the police because they were immigrants.

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    Re: Nine Charged in Bullying of Massachusetts Teen Who Killed Herself

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    My perspective as someone who has been actually raped is that "Statutory Rape" is a bull**** charge that is insulting to actual rape survivors.

    But I admit I could be biased.
    See, I can understand that to a point. There's a point I don't. For example, if a 30 year old instructor convinces his 8 year old student that its prefectly okay to let him touch her there and that its natural and she's a big girl, I think statutory rape is a correct type of law. The 8 year old is in no realm of believability able to make such a large decision with an even close to full understanding of the consequences and is being manipulated by someone in a place of authority over them. There is "consent" there but its not really informed if you get my meaning.

    I understand fully what you mean if its a 14 year old and a 17 year old. Even though I think such an act is extremely skeevy and rather disgusting, I would even say its wrong for say a 30 year old and a 16 year old. But I do think there are points where the Statutory Rape standard is definitely a worthy law.

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    Re: Nine Charged in Bullying of Massachusetts Teen Who Killed Herself

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    If I flash my tits at someone, I could be put on a sex offender list. Those lists are pretty useless.
    Do you ever read a post for content, or just for something to bitch about?
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    Re: Nine Charged in Bullying of Massachusetts Teen Who Killed Herself

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Do you ever read a post for content, or just for something to bitch about?
    You said you felt there were too many folks on the sex offender list in your area and I pointed out how ****ing easy it is to get on one, so the fact that there were "a lot" didn't necessarily mean anything.

    So what was the "content" I missed?

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    Re: Nine Charged in Bullying of Massachusetts Teen Who Killed Herself

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    You said you felt there were too many folks on the sex offender list in your area and I pointed out how ****ing easy it is to get on one, so the fact that there were "a lot" didn't necessarily mean anything.

    So what was the "content" I missed?
    The fact that statutory rape was not a crime charged to any of them, it was criminal sexual conduct. You know, the point of the post. You are hung up on the term "statutory rape", which is not even the proper legal term in most places.
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    Re: Nine Charged in Bullying of Massachusetts Teen Who Killed Herself

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Okay, so what should she have done to "fight back" against the bullying she was receiving from at least 9 students, in your opinion? What were her options to deal with this intimidating environment?
    Simple. Ignore them. You've said yourself that they're looking for a reaction. If you don't give them one, they get bored and move on.

    Second way, be nice to them. Smile, wave, tell them good morning, etc. Again, not the reaction they're looking for.

    I've found both of these tactics to be extremely successful in getting bullies to stop bullying.

    Also, what would you consider "harassment"?
    It's not so much that I don't consider it harassment as I don't consider harassment something worthy of criminal action.

    The only way I would go to the cops is if someone was actually preventing me from living my life in a normal manner. Pounding on my door all night long. Following me everywhere I went and physically pushing me, shoving me. Using their vehicle to prevent mine from moving when I tried to go anywhere. Things like that. Things that actually physically prevent me from living my life normally. But calling me names? Posting mean things about me online?

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    Re: Nine Charged in Bullying of Massachusetts Teen Who Killed Herself

    Redress I'm not sure what the point of your anecdotal evidence is. Are you seriously trying to claim that those indicted for statutory rape don't have to register as sex offenders? Have you heard of the Romeo and Juliet laws?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rivrrat
    Simple. Ignore them. You've said yourself that they're looking for a reaction. If you don't give them one, they get bored and move on.

    Second way, be nice to them. Smile, wave, tell them good morning, etc. Again, not the reaction they're looking for.

    I've found both of these tactics to be extremely successful in getting bullies to stop bullying.
    Or with anyone that you don't like/doesn't like you in general. Positive energy tends to make these types of situations go away.
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    Re: Nine Charged in Bullying of Massachusetts Teen Who Killed Herself

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The fact that statutory rape was not a crime charged to any of them, it was criminal sexual conduct. You know, the point of the post. You are hung up on the term "statutory rape", which is not even the proper legal term in most places.
    I'm not "hung up" on anything. That's the term the articles use. That's the term most people on here are using. The term itself is insulting. It's implication is insulting.

    The fact that they group rape in with flashing someone and call them both "sexual misconduct" is also insulting.

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    Re: Nine Charged in Bullying of Massachusetts Teen Who Killed Herself

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    I wonder if they didn't go to the police because they were immigrants.
    i think they had been here quite some time.....and anyway, i don't think irish immigrants have as hard a time as, say, muslim immigrants. ;-)

    it's possible the poor girl thought that would make it worse.

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    Re: Nine Charged in Bullying of Massachusetts Teen Who Killed Herself

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Redress I'm not sure what the point of your anecdotal evidence is. Are you seriously trying to claim that those indicted for statutory rape don't have to register as sex offenders? Have you heard of the Romeo and Juliet laws?
    Um, no, I am claiming that what is commonly referred to as "statutory rape" is legally called something else, in the case of Michigan, "criminal sexual conduct". We have a surprising number of child predators in my town, but no one is charged with "statutory rape".
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