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    Re: Feds: Philly Man Threatened GOP Leader

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    Feds: Philly Man Threatened To Kill Cantor In Online Video

    Its pretty obvious to me that our democrat politicians are enciting people to violence. Wait a minute, isn't that what liberals are accusing the evil republicans of doing. Dems need to zip it and stop throwing around accusations.
    Ghee let's see !!! Was there a Coffee Muggers protest where Democrats yelled against Republican politicians, , and stated that Bush was not born in this country and called him the anti-Christ ? NO I never saw anything like that so well then there was no enciting to committ violence by Democrats was there !

    CASE CLOSED !!!!
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    Re: Feds: Philly Man Threatened GOP Leader

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    Ghee let's see !!! Was there a Coffee Muggers protest where Democrats yelled against Republican politicians, , and stated that Bush was not born in this country and called him the anti-Christ ? NO I never saw anything like that so well then there was no enciting to committ violence by Democrats was there !

    CASE CLOSED !!!!
    Oh god, I hope you're being sarcastic, cuz we got documented proof, you know. B)
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    Re: Man charged with threatening to kill Cantor and his family

    I think anyone from any side threatening violence is a ****tard.

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    Re: Feds: Philly Man Threatened GOP Leader

    Quote Originally Posted by deltabtry View Post
    When the federal government over steps their constitutional limitations this is why Texas Governor speaks of succession.


    THE TEXAS CONSTITUTION



    ARTICLE 1. BILL OF RIGHTS




    That the general, great and essential principles of liberty and free government may be recognized and established, we declare:

    Sec. 1. FREEDOM AND SOVEREIGNTY OF STATE. Texas is a free and independent State, subject only to the Constitution of the United States, and the maintenance of our free institutions and the perpetuity of the Union depend upon the preservation of the right of local self-government, unimpaired to all the States.

    Sec. 2. INHERENT POLITICAL POWER; REPUBLICAN FORM OF GOVERNMENT. All political power is inherent in the people, and all free governments are founded on their authority, and instituted for their benefit. The faith of the people of Texas stands pledged to the preservation of a republican form of government, and, subject to this limitation only, they have at all times the inalienable right to alter, reform or abolish their government in such manner as they may think expedient.


    Sec. 3. EQUAL RIGHTS. All free men, when they form a social compact, have equal rights, and no man, or set of men, is entitled to exclusive separate public emoluments, or privileges, but in consideration of public services.


    Sec. 3a. EQUALITY UNDER THE LAW. Equality under the law shall not be denied or abridged because of sex, race, color, creed, or national origin. This amendment is self-operative.
    Texas is not an independent state. When they signed the treaty to become a state they had an option whether to be one state or split up into many. They forfeited their own independent sovereignty when they signed the treaty annexing Texas to the United States and the federal government took on all debts from the Republic of Texas. They do not have a right to secede under law. Besides the Civil War very much put an end to that question.
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    Re: Feds: Philly Man Threatened GOP Leader

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Can you please explain how secession = inciting violence?
    Really you need that one answered for you? I could remember one of the bloodiest events of our history had to do with secession.

    Secession is an unamerican concept.

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    Re: Feds: Philly Man Threatened GOP Leader

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    If the federal government grows beyond the intended bounds of the Constitution, all bets are off.
    Which it hasn't. You could pretty much claim anything is an overstep at that point and claim secession is okay when its not. Secession is unamerican.

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    Re: Feds: Philly Man Threatened GOP Leader

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    Texas is not an independent state. When they signed the treaty to become a state they had an option whether to be one state or split up into many. They forfeited their own independent sovereignty when they signed the treaty annexing Texas to the United States and the federal government took on all debts from the Republic of Texas. They do not have a right to secede under law. Besides the Civil War very much put an end to that question.
    Edit: They do not have a right to leave the union under the Join Resolution of 1845 that admitted them into the union as a state. To clear things up they were given an option to split into as many as 4 states. The part about taking on debts came from the proposed treaty, however, the actual joint resolution calls for Texas itself to hold all their own public debts.

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    Re: Man charged with threatening to kill Cantor and his family

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    Feds: Philly Man Threatened To Kill Cantor In Online Video

    Its pretty obvious to me that our democrat politicians are enciting people to violence. Wait a minute, isn't that what liberals are accusing the evil republicans of doing. Dems need to zip it and stop throwing around accusations.
    See below:

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    I think this Philadelphia man is if not insane then profoundly wrong and his actions deserve to be condemned.

    I don't think Democratic political leaders have incited political violence in their language or in their deeds. And, sad to say, I don't feel the same about many conservative leaders in this country.
    I agree. It is reprehensible to threaten out elected officials. I'm glad he's in custody.

    And he is insane, (see below) but that in no way excuses his threats.

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    I am interested to find out what connections Norman Leboon, 38, of the 1600 block of Brenner Street, has with any political party.

    I also can't wait to hear his explanation, and further what was actually contained in the video.

    I hope he goes to trail and there is no plea bargain so we can see if it was something really threatening or can it be seen another way.

    At this point we know pretty much nothing.

    We know that some of the treat claims are a PONY as Obama brilliant.

    We know the Lefties have lied for months about threats and hate speech when all the time 99.9% of hate speech has come from Liberals who have set the stage for all kinds of false flag operations, like Pelosi claiming 70s violence when in fact it was from the left the violence came.

    Then there is; "Rock Thrown Through Ohio Dem Rep's Office Window. Reality: Office is on 30th Floor of Cincinnati Skyscraper..."

    Can anyone name a person who can throw a rock over 300 feet straight up through a window?

    If you know such a person send them to the NY Yankees, they could use a pitcher with that kind of arm.

    I'm sure his threats against Cantor were just as rambling as those he made against Obama (near the end of the video). He doesn't have a very high opinion of Pelosi or Reid either.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdOfwx6I3kQ&feature=player_embedded"]YouTube- President Obama you will beg God for life[/ame]
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    Re: Feds: Philly Man Threatened GOP Leader

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    … I don't think Democratic political leaders have incited political violence in their language or in their deeds. And, sad to say, I don't feel the same about many conservative leaders in this country.
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkWizard12 View Post
    Hmmm, that might mean something. :/
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    Can I get an Amen on that?
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    Re: Feds: Philly Man Threatened GOP Leader

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    Texas is not an independent state. When they signed the treaty to become a state they had an option whether to be one state or split up into many. They forfeited their own independent sovereignty when they signed the treaty annexing Texas to the United States and the federal government took on all debts from the Republic of Texas. They do not have a right to secede under law. Besides the Civil War very much put an end to that question.
    I disagree, the issue you bring forth has never fully be resolved by the Supreme Court after the civil war in which Texas had to be readmitted to the union. There may not be specific language in the Texas constitution but article one is clear in it's intentions. That said, there is no clear definition or condition in the U.S. constitution in regards to annexation of Texas. This argument has never been resolved, therefor according to the Texas constitution we could take a default position acknowledging this right.

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