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    Re: Seven arrested in FBI raids linked to Christian militia group

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    I'd have no problem with raids being made on Moslem militia groups planning attacks on Christian or any other target. As Pete pointed out, such raids have taken place. Did you, American, complain when these raids took place? In the interests of balance, of course.

    I know nothing of the Hutaree, but if they are armed to the teeth (no doubt claiming their Second Amendment rights) and planning attacks on anyone, they need to be taken out.
    Which aspect of the raid do you find troubling?
    The same could be said for Iran.......

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    Re: Seven arrested in FBI raids linked to Christian militia group

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    … I think the majority of it sounds trumped up. I think instead you had kind of an isolationist, extremist movement which centered around militia and they ran their mouths a lot and bitched about the government a lot and finally the government had enough of it.
    After the insanity and cruelty of the Oklahoma City bombing, I rather think we should take militia members at their word when they say they intend to do harm to people.
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    Re: Seven arrested in FBI raids linked to Christian militia group

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    'Eventually, agents arrested Larry M. Williams, a convicted felon who was wanted because of unresolved warrants, including for not registering as a sex offender.'


    "But the authorities said Mr. Abdullah, who had a lengthy criminal record and was forbidden to have a firearm, opened fire on the agents. "



    And there was plenty of outrage from the Muslims and ACLU. We'll see where the ACLU stands on this no doubt by their silence. Furthermore I don't see where the militia group broke a law.
    detainees were being held for suspected visa violations and other offences
    shouldn't the law be enforced if these individuals where in violation of.

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    Re: Seven arrested in FBI raids linked to Christian militia group

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post

    Yeah its been known that white supremecist and militia groups specifically target veterans for recruitment. So what was exactly wrong about the report that was originally commissioned under President George W. Bush? You do know he also commissioned a report about Left Wing Extremism as well but not much peep about it when it was released.

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    Re: Seven arrested in FBI raids linked to Christian militia group

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    Yeah its been known that white supremecist and militia groups specifically target veterans for recruitment. So what was exactly wrong about the report that was originally commissioned under President George W. Bush? You do know he also commissioned a report about Left Wing Extremism as well but not much peep about it when it was released.
    Well, it makes a lot more sense than recruiting hair dressers or florists.....
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    Re: Seven arrested in FBI raids linked to Christian militia group

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    Yeah its been known that white supremecist and militia groups specifically target veterans for recruitment. So what was exactly wrong about the report that was originally commissioned under President George W. Bush? You do know he also commissioned a report about Left Wing Extremism as well but not much peep about it when it was released.
    That's because it didn't label anyone as potential terrorists.
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    Re: Seven arrested in FBI raids linked to Christian militia group

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    After the insanity and cruelty of the Oklahoma City bombing, I rather think we should take militia members at their word when they say they intend to do harm to people.
    It would be nice to be more specific about what kind of militia groups you are referring to, such as the White ayrian etc. There are many militia groups in this country that hold true to our constitution and don't make such threats.

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    Re: Seven arrested in FBI raids linked to Christian militia group

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    The indictment is for conspiracy and trumped up guns charges, not what you claim. You're the one supporting government force here, it's up to you to prove the point; not me. Innocence is presumed.
    I said I am glad the alleged conspirators are in custody. I didn't claim anything more than that. Seems to me, I am on safe ground on describing my own mental state on reading the article.
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    Re: Seven arrested in FBI raids linked to Christian militia group

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    After the insanity and cruelty of the Oklahoma City bombing, I rather think we should take militia members at their word when they say they intend to do harm to people.
    Quote Originally Posted by deltabtry View Post
    It would be nice to be more specific about what kind of militia groups you are referring to, such as the White ayrian etc. There are many militia groups in this country that hold true to our constitution and don't make such threats.
    I pointed to militia members who “say they intend to do harm to people.” Isn't that sufficiently specific?
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    Re: Seven arrested in FBI raids linked to Christian militia group

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    I pointed to militia members who “say they intend to do harm to people.” Isn't that sufficiently specific?
    Isn't that sufficiently specific

    Not really, I don't mean to nit pick but, this is why many people have the wrong impression and then make general judgment based on a label. This is what the media does. There are thousand of militia groups in this country and true patriots who believe in this country and all it processes in governing based on our constitution.

    Although I am not asking you to correct it, I know and I assume most here know exactly what your talking about but, do you see the point I am trying to make.

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