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    Re: Federal judge OKs D.C.'s latest set of gun-control laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    No.
    These are assault rifles, like the M16. These have been federally regulated since 1934.
    An 'assault weapon' is a semi-auto rifle like the AR15.
    I think we agree on everything but the terminology and what to call the rifle. I don't think you'll find any of our SpecOps heroes asking for a semi-auto version to take into harms way.

    IMHO, The term "assault weapon" is a political term and has nothing to do with rifles at all.. it is a term originated by gun-grabbers and perpetuated accordingly.. progressives use it to scare the ignorant. PLEASE consider not playing their game!
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    Re: Federal judge OKs D.C.'s latest set of gun-control laws

    Quote Originally Posted by ConservaBill View Post
    I think we agree on everything but the terminology and what to call the rifle. I don't think you'll find any of our SpecOps heroes asking for a semi-auto version to take into harms way.
    They do -- the M14 series rifles are all semi-auto.

    IMHO, The term "assault weapon" is a political term and has nothing to do with rifles at all.
    This is absolutely correct -- I was simply pointing out the difference between the actual term assualt rifle and the political term 'assault weapon'.

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    Re: Federal judge OKs D.C.'s latest set of gun-control laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Alvin T. Grey View Post
    My take on it?
    If you want one for hunting, then fine. Apply for a long rifle or shotgun license. The state or Feds must have a "shall issue" policy on that. Ditto for home defense. With a transport allowance for carrying to and from events or practice.

    You want one for personal protection?
    Sure, demonstrate a specifc threat. A barring order or security job or carrying cash etc.

    You want a military grade weapon?
    Sure. Demonstrate membership in a recognized regulated militia.


    Oddly enough, Alvin, most states in the USA do not have these kinds of restrictions, and yet >99.98% of lawfully owned firearms are never used in any kind of crime.

    I would consider such laws as you propose far too restrictive and a violation of the Second Amendment... just as I would consider such stringent restrictions on free speech a violation of the First.

    If you like it like that in your country, fine... but not here.

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    Re: Federal judge OKs D.C.'s latest set of gun-control laws

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    This is overzealous...??

    Hell, if you're going to own a gun, goddamn straight I want the cops to have your photo, fingerprints, and know everything they can.

    If you're not doing anything wrong--then don't sweat it.

    Boo-hoo, I have to fill out paperwork.

    Boo-hoo, I have to explain why I need a gun... That's right Rambo, why do you need a gun?
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    Need has nothing to do with constitutional rights

    and as long as people think like you do-I do need a gun



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    Re: Federal judge OKs D.C.'s latest set of gun-control laws

    [quote=Alvin T. Grey;1058651728]
    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    I never used the word "Need" I specifically said "Want". there is a difference.




    Yes you do. Because the great caviet on the exercising of any right is it's impact on others. - You need permits for parades (free assembly) there are restrictions on speach (liable and slander laws etc).
    The free excercise of rights is constantly being restricted. The alternative to that is what we call Anarchy.



    Lets not forget to quote the whole clause, most importantly the preceeding two words prior to "Militia". Those of course being "Well" and "Regulated".



    That would be "Well" and "Regulated" taken care of. Now for the trifecta specified in the first four words in the darn amendment you need to be part of a militia. Which means certified recognizable verifiable organization.
    LOL another person clueless about what well regulated means in the context of the amendment.

    You are so wrong it is not funny. If you were right the second part of the amendment would say the right of the state to keep and arm militias shall not be infringed

    since you seem so well versed in the constitution, point me to the clause that delegated-to the federal government-the power to regulate small arms

    me-I only taught the subject at a couple law schools

    you?



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    Re: Federal judge OKs D.C.'s latest set of gun-control laws

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Fair enough -- just fill out the proper forms, register the gun per your state/county laws, and no problem.
    I shouldnt need to fill out paperwork in order to exercise a right.
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    Re: Federal judge OKs D.C.'s latest set of gun-control laws

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    I shouldnt need to fill out paperwork in order to exercise a right.
    No, you certainly should not need to.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Federal judge OKs D.C.'s latest set of gun-control laws

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    I shouldnt need to fill out paperwork in order to exercise a right.
    especially when there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that doing such a thing actually promotes any LEGITIMATE public good

    (harassing honest people or justifying the existence of some parasitic bureaucrat are not legitimate goods)



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    Re: Federal judge OKs D.C.'s latest set of gun-control laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Alvin T. Grey View Post
    Select fire. Intermediate cartrige, magazine fed.
    That's not select fire.
    Select fire would make it an automatic or 3 short burst.

    It fires a 22 cartridge, which is not intermediate.

    What difference does it make that it is magazine fed?
    You do know that the vast majority of crimes are committed with hand guns, don't you?



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    What's wrong with them?
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    Re: Federal judge OKs D.C.'s latest set of gun-control laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Oddly enough, Alvin, most states in the USA do not have these kinds of restrictions, and yet >99.98% of lawfully owned firearms are never used in any kind of crime.

    I would consider such laws as you propose far too restrictive and a violation of the Second Amendment... just as I would consider such stringent restrictions on free speech a violation of the First.

    If you like it like that in your country, fine... but not here.
    Ours are much more restrictive.
    The one above is the oft cited Swiss method.

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