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    Re: Israeli tanks 'enter Gaza' after deadly clashes

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Depending on which side of the boarder the explosives were being planted will determine who is at fault here

    On the Gaza side, then Israel is at fault, on the Israel side then Hamas
    I don't see the logic here.

    Hamas has attacked a squad that came to deal with a border breach, as a result two Israeli soldiers and two Palestinian militants were killed.

    Adding that to the recent increase in rockets, to the soldier that has died a few days ago under similar circumstances, and to the person who was killed by a Palestinian rocket last week, and we have an escalation by Hamas.

    Cast Lead 2 is no longer so far.
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    Re: Israeli tanks 'enter Gaza' after deadly clashes

    Bang-Boom-Pow.

    Let the IDF blow Hamas to smithereens.

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    Re: Israeli tanks 'enter Gaza' after deadly clashes

    Quote Originally Posted by MetalGear View Post
    Bang-Boom-Pow.

    Let the IDF blow Hamas to smithereens.
    and the people of Gaza
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    Re: Israeli tanks 'enter Gaza' after deadly clashes

    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    and the people of Gaza
    What are you trying to say?

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    Re: Israeli tanks 'enter Gaza' after deadly clashes

    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    and the people of Gaza
    I prefer Hamas only, if you don't mind.
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    Re: Israeli tanks 'enter Gaza' after deadly clashes

    Quote Originally Posted by MetalGear View Post
    What are you trying to say?
    I am sayig that when your attitude is to blow Hamas to Smithereens and Apocalypse has already said that Cast Lead 2 is not far off, we know from previous experience that there will be far more civilians than Hamas killed and that a very great proportion of them will be children. I think it was one third last time.

    I agree it is coming.

    An alternative would be to genuinely look for peace.

    But yes, blow the people of Gaza to smithereens. They have not anyway been allowed to rebuild their houses since last time.

    Sure blow them to smitheens. The only result will be more Hamas recruits

    but heck, then it can be done with a very easy conscience.
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    Re: Israeli tanks 'enter Gaza' after deadly clashes

    Gaza's terrorists may well have calculated that Israel would be compelled to exercise maximum restraint with all the international pressure being placed on Israel in recent weeks to make unilateral substantive concessions to the Palestinians, including to those in the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip. Hence, they felt that there was an opportunity to carry out hostilities. In the wake of the terrorist activity that sparked the military operations, it will be important that Israel hit the terrorists hard to restore a sense of deterrence.

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    Re: Israeli tanks 'enter Gaza' after deadly clashes

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Depending on which side of the boarder the explosives were being planted will determine who is at fault here
    That's irrelevant. The terrorists weren't planting explosives to put on some kind of display. They were planting explosives to breach the border. That's an act of aggression.

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    Re: Israeli tanks 'enter Gaza' after deadly clashes

    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    An alternative would be to genuinely look for peace.
    The pursuit of peace is preferable. However, there are two major barriers right now:

    1. The Palestinian leadership in Ramallah is maintaining a self-imposed boycott on negotiations. Without negotiations, peace cannot be pursued diplomatically.

    2. Hamas rejects Israel's right to exist and it rejects negotiations. Furthermore, it defines such rejectionism as a requirement of religious faith. From Hamas' charter:

    The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgment Day. It, or any part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it, should not be given up. Neither a single Arab country nor all Arab countries, neither any king or president, nor all the kings and presidents, neither any organization nor all of them, be they Palestinian or Arab, possess the right to do that. Palestine is an Islamic Waqf land consecrated for Moslem generations until Judgment Day...

    Initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences, are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement.

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    Re: Israeli tanks 'enter Gaza' after deadly clashes

    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    I am sayig that when your attitude is to blow Hamas to Smithereens and Apocalypse has already said that Cast Lead 2 is not far off, we know from previous experience that there will be far more civilians than Hamas killed and that a very great proportion of them will be children. I think it was one third last time.
    Yes, the attitude is to blow HAMAS to smithereens, not civilians. You almost gave me the impression the killing of civilians is a purposeful act on Israel's behalf....i cannot tell you how many more the civilians compared to Hamas the IDF will kill, that all depends on the amount of civilians Hamas uses as a shield to protect there cowardice selves.

    Unfortunately the death of civilians is something that cannot be prevented for as long as Hamas continues to commit atrocious acts, and its something we shouldn't walk away from and allow them to continue committing war crimes.

    I agree it is coming.

    An alternative would be to genuinely look for peace.

    But yes, blow the people of Gaza to smithereens. They have not anyway been allowed to rebuild their houses since last time.

    Sure blow them to smitheens. The only result will be more Hamas recruits

    but heck, then it can be done with a very easy conscience.
    Sweetheart, peace is all well and good, but its not a political reality.
    Now you can do a Dalai Lama on our arses and dig yourself a grave to bury your conflicts in there in the name of peace, and to only end up getting pushed in by your enemy too.
    Or you face up to the Hamas bullies and give them a beating they wont forget.

    There is no peace with Hamas in the equation, thats all there is to it.
    Last edited by MetalGear; 03-27-10 at 09:25 AM.

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