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    Re: Catholic Church accuses abuse victims of smear campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by moe View Post
    Point 1 of course I accept.

    Point 2 from what I read his ministry was restricted.

    He should have been defrocked. Not put out of the church, but no longer a preist of the church. just an average joe in pew again.

    His crimes should have been reported to the local law authorities and handled via same legal process that all criminals go through.

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    The Vatican did not even know about this until he was elderly. It was the LOCAL Church authorities who restricted his ministry.
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    Re: Catholic Church accuses abuse victims of smear campaign

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    I am a little tired of the media-orchestrated smear campaign against the Church. Yes, there are tragedies and I pray for the victims as well as for the priests who committed them. However, the overwhelming majority of those in the church, from high clergy officials to laypeople are good, honest, hardworking, faithful people who try to live out the values of our faith on a daily basis as best we know how. None of this invaldiates the basic truths taught by the Church for nearly two thousand years. Are there some bad apples? Of course. It is, after all, the world's largest organization. However, the wealth of good that the Church has done mush be considered.
    After more thought, reading some very good posts here, and a discussion at coffee hour today after Palm Sunday Masswith some people from my church I am beginning to see this issue as a Watergate coverup. If you are a Republican partisan yahoo do not respond and accuse me of parisanship because when I say WATERGATE I mean that the coverup is what will get the leadership in trouble. I am not in any way dissmissing the psychological /social terrorist acts committed by the pervertsby addressing this is a coverup issue. As someone else had stated the Church needs to address, correct, and I shall add attone for the coverup before the healing can start.
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    Re: Catholic Church accuses abuse victims of smear campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    The Vatican did not even know about this until he was elderly. It was the LOCAL Church authorities who restricted his ministry.
    I find extremely hard to believe that the hierarchy of the church at least up to CARDINAL did not know that there was a restiction placed upon a priest somewhere in it's chain of command!! Someone in that chain must have prevetned the VATICAN from knowing.
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    Re: Catholic Church accuses abuse victims of smear campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    I find extremely hard to believe that the hierarchy of the church at least up to CARDINAL did not know that there was a restiction placed upon a priest somewhere in it's chain of command!! Someone in that chain must have prevetned the VATICAN from knowing.
    This IS possible, but not definate. The Vatican does not know about or monitor priest assignments in each and every national church or diocese. National churches and archdioceses/dioceses run with more autonomy than most people not familiar with the Catholic Chruch imagine. It is NOT uniform. It is entirely possible the Vatican did NOT know about without there being a cover up.
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