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    Re: Binyamin Netanyahu humiliated after Barack Obama 'dumped him for dinner'

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    ... you really don't care about historical facts.
    Thats a description best suited for your lack of historical knowledge of the period.
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    Re: Binyamin Netanyahu humiliated after Barack Obama 'dumped him for dinner'

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    ... you really don't care about historical facts.
    Quote Originally Posted by Degreez View Post
    You consider 'logical fallacy' to be a big word? Holy Batman!
    Its called sarcasm. Try looking it up.

    You see that part that I made bold? I know reading comprehension is difficult, so I highlighted an area to help you.

    In which way is discussing the Crusades a solely Muslim and/or far left 'argument'? If this holds true, then it is only Christian apologists who say the Crusades were a response to Islamic "aggression" (despite being 400 years too late).
    I never used the word "solely"

    If you are going to lie about what I say, try not to be so obvious next time.
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    Re: Binyamin Netanyahu humiliated after Barack Obama 'dumped him for dinner'

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Thats a description best suited for your lack of historical knowledge of the period.
    When did the Arab-Egyptian Caliphate attack the Byzantine Empire?
    Last edited by Morality Games; 04-11-10 at 10:17 PM.
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    Re: Binyamin Netanyahu humiliated after Barack Obama 'dumped him for dinner'

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    When did the Arab-Egyptian Caliphate attack Europe?

    1. 613 Persians capture Damascus and Antioch

    2. 614 Persians sack Jerusalem

    3. 633 Muslims conquer Syria and Iraq

    4. 635 Muslims begin the conquest of Persia and Syria

    5. 635 Arab Muslims capture the city of Damascus

    6. 636-637 Arab domination of Syria

    7. 637 Arabs occupy Ctesiphon

    8. 637 Jerusalem falls to Muslim forces

    9. 638 Caliph Umar I enters Jerusalem

    10. 639 Muslims conquer Egypt and Persia

    11. 641 Islam spreads into Egypt

    12. 641 Muslims conquer Alexandria

    13. 649 Muawiya I leads raid against Cyprus sacking the capital Salamis-Constantia

    14. 652 Sicily is attacked by Muslims

    15. 653 Muawiya I leads raid against Rhodes

    16. 654 Muawiya I conquers Cyprus

    17. 655 Battle of the Masts

    18. 661-680 Mu�awiya moves capital from Mecca to Damascus

    19. 662 Egypt falls to the Umayyad and Abbasid caliphates

    20. 667 Sicily is attacked by Muslims

    21. 668 First siege of Constantinople

    22. 669 Muslim conquest reaches Morocco

    23. 672 Muslims capture the island of Rhodes

    24. 674 Arab conquest reaches Indus River

    25. 698 Muslims capture Carthage

    26. 700 Muslims raid Island of Sicily

    27. 711 Muslims conquest of Sindh in Afghanistan

    28. 711 Battle of Guadalate

    29. 712 Conquest of Andulusia

    30. 715 Muslim conquest of Spain

    31. 716 Muslims captured Lisbon

    32. 717 Cordova becomes capital of Andalusia (Spain)

    33. 719 Muslims attack Septimania in Southern France

    34. 721 Muslims cross the Pyrenees

    35. 722 Battle of Covadonga First defeat of Muslims by Christians

    36. 724 Muslims raid southern France and capture Carcassone and Nimes

    37. 725 Muslim forces occupy Nimes, France

    38. 730 Muslim forces occupy Narbonne and Avignon

    39. 732 Battle of Tours (Christian Victory)

    40. 735 Muslim invaders capture Arles

    41. 750 Abbasids move capital to Baghdad

    42. 756 The Emirate of Cordova is established

    43. 759 Pippin III ends Muslim incursions in France

    44. 792 Hisham I calls for a Jihad Thousands heed his call to cross the Pyrenees to subjugate France. Many cities are destroyed

    45. 813 Muslims attack the Civi Vecchia near Rome

    46. 816 The Moors support the Basques against the Franks

    47. 827 Sicily is invaded by Muslims

    48. 831 Muslims capture Palermo and make it their capital

    49. 838 Muslim raiders sack Marseille

    50. 841 Muslim forces capture Bari (in Italy)

    51. 846 Muslim raiders attack areas near Ostia and Rome. Some enter Rome and damage the Churches of St. Peter and St. Paul. The Leonine Wall is built to discourage further Attacks.

    52. 849 Battle of Ostia (Christian Victory)

    53. 850 Perfectus, a Christian priest in Muslim Cordova is executed � one of the first of Many

    54. 85111 young Christians are executed for insulting the Prophet Muhammed

    55. 858 Muslim raiders attack Constantinople

    56. 859 Muslim invaders capture Castrogiovanni slaughtering several thousand

    57. 869 Arabs capture the island of Malta

    58. 870 Muslim invaders capture Syracuse

    59. 876 Muslims pillage Campagna in Italy

    60. 879 The Seljuk Empire unites Mesapotamia and a large portion of Persia

    61. 884 Muslims invading Italy burn the monastery of Monte Cassino to the ground

    62. 900 The Fatimid Dynasty assumes control of Egypt

    63. 902 The Muslim conquest of Sicily is completed when the Christian city of Toorminia is captured

    64. 909 Sicily comes under control of the Fatimids

    65. 909 The fatimid Dynasty assumes control of Egypt

    66. 909 Muslims control all the passes in the Alps between France and Italy � cutting off passage between the two countries

    67. 920 Muslim forces cross the Pyrenees, enter Gascony and reach as far as the gates of Toulouse

    68. 972 The Fatimids of Egypt conquer North Africa

    69. 981 Ramiro III, king of Leon, is defeated at Rueda

    70. 985 Al-Mansur Ibn Abi Aamir sacks Barcelona

    71. 994 The monastery of Monte Cassino is destrpyed a second time by Arabs

    72. 997 Under the leadership of Almanzar, Muslim forces march out of the city of Cordova and head north to capture Christian lands.

    73. 997 Muslim forces burn Compostela to the ground

    74. 1004 Arab raiders sack the Italian city of Pisa

    75. 1009 The Holy Sepulcher in Jerusalem is destroyed by Muslim armies

    76. 1009 Caliph Al-Hakim bi-Amr Allah orders the the Holy Sepulcher and all Christian buildings in Jerusalem be destroyed

    77. 1012 Caliph Al-Hakim bi-Amr Allah orders the destruction of all Christian and Jewish houses of worship in his lands

    78. 1012 Berber forces capture Cordova and order that half the population be executed

    79. 1015 Arab Muslim forces conquer Sardinia

    80. 1064 The Seljuk Turks conquer Christian Armenia

    81. 1070 Seljuk Turks capture Jerusalem and begin persecuting Christian Pilgrims

    82. 1071-1085 Seljuk Turks conquer most of Syria and Palestine

    83. 1071 Battle of Manzikert

    84. 1073 Seljuk Turks conquer Ankara

    85. 1078 Seljuk Turks capture Nicaea

    86. 1084 Seljuk Turks conquer Antioch

    67. 1086 Battle of Zallaca

    68. 1088 Patzinak Turks begin forming settlements between the Danube and the Balkans

    69. 1090 Granada captured by Yusuf Ibn Tashfin

    70. 1091 Cordova is captured by the Almoravids


    Not to mention the frequent Muslim attacks on Christian pilgrims to Israel.

    Again, know your history before looking foolish
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    Re: Binyamin Netanyahu humiliated after Barack Obama 'dumped him for dinner'

    Quote Originally Posted by Degreez View Post
    Just as there were numerous bodies of people who welcomed the Muslim invaders over the oppressive Christian empire. Does that somehow give it more legitimacy.
    God I am so sick of the "golden age of Islam" horse****, the fact of the matter is that the Islamic invaders weren't welcomed, they offered three choices to the conquered, to convert, die, or live as 3rd class dhimmi half slaves, or in many cases (more than the western slave trade in fact) as actual slaves.

    Ever hear of the Indian subcontinent? Well FYI sport dar al-Islam inflicted the largest genocide up until Stalin there.

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    Re: Binyamin Netanyahu humiliated after Barack Obama 'dumped him for dinner'

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Wrong. Its dead on accurate.
    No, it's an opinion that is held in low regards in the historical community. It's hypocritical to say it was Islamic aggression when the Christian oppression outweighs said 'aggression'. Christians banned Jews from entering their holy city for over five hundred years. Muslims conquered the land and allowed them back into Jerusalem. You can call that aggression all you want, but the historical consensus contradicts you.

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    That has absolutely no bearing on Muslim agression before the Crusades nor does it provide any reason for the Crusades other than the one already provided.
    Hmm, let's see. The Byzantine Emperor made a request to the Pope. The Pope agrees to send help, in hopes of fixing the schism between the Catholic and the Orthodox Churches and getting the East under his control.

    And while you call it Muslim aggression, it was Jews and Muslims who fought against the Franks in the Siege of Jerusalem. However, the Crusaders were not "aggressors", right? They treated the conquered populace better than the Muslim "aggressors", right?

    Hell ****ing no.



    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Why are you looking at this as racial? Islam is not a race.
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    Because Pope Urban II issued a Crusade against the Turks. He only mentions Arabs once.

    Medieval Sourcebook: Urban II: Speech at Council of Clermont, 1095, according to Fulcherof Chartres

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    Re: Binyamin Netanyahu humiliated after Barack Obama 'dumped him for dinner'

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    God I am so sick of the "golden age of Islam" horse****, the fact of the matter is that the Islamic invaders weren't welcomed, they offered three choices to the conquered, to convert, die, or live as 3rd class dhimmi half slaves, or in many cases (more than the western slave trade in fact) as actual slaves.

    Ever hear of the Indian subcontinent? Well FYI sport dar al-Islam inflicted the largest genocide up until Stalin there.
    Nice display of ignorance of history.

    "Live as 3rd class dhimmi half slaves".

    The only thing the "dhimmis" had to do was a pay a jizya (poll tax) which exempted them from military service and was significantly cheaper than the zakat that all Muslims are obligated to pay.

    And Islamic invaders were welcomed, as I already provided this evidence earlier in the thread. Who's boats did the Muslims use to get to Hispania? Exactly, remain ignorant of relevant history while spouting bull**** rhetoric.

    Also FYI, Mao Zedong will disagree with your pathetic genocide argument.

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    Re: Binyamin Netanyahu humiliated after Barack Obama 'dumped him for dinner'

    Quote Originally Posted by Degreez View Post
    No, it's an opinion that is held in low regards in the historical community. It's hypocritical to say it was Islamic aggression when the Christian oppression outweighs said 'aggression'. Christians banned Jews from entering their holy city for over five hundred years. Muslims conquered the land and allowed them back into Jerusalem. You can call that aggression all you want, but the historical consensus contradicts you.
    The Islamic genocide perpetrated on the Indian Subcontinent far outweighs any genocide in history up until Stalin. (Yes worse than even Hitler twice as bad in fact) so if you're basing your justification for invasion on which group was more oppressive to those it conquered then again you still lose.

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    Re: Binyamin Netanyahu humiliated after Barack Obama 'dumped him for dinner'

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Its called sarcasm. Try looking it up.



    I never used the word "solely"

    If you are going to lie about what I say, try not to be so obvious next time.
    You are the one being dishonest here:

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1058649631
    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster
    Are you Muslim and/or far left because only those two groups are stupid enough to keep using the Crusaders line.

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    Re: Binyamin Netanyahu humiliated after Barack Obama 'dumped him for dinner'

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    The Islamic genocide perpetrated on the Indian Subcontinent far outweighs any genocide in history up until Stalin. (Yes worse than even Hitler twice as bad in fact) so if you're basing your justification for invasion on which group was more oppressive to those it conquered then again you still lose.
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