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House GOP No. 2: Someone shot at my office

What was he using for ammo? A solution or a problem?

He was using a gun, too.

I didn't say bullets were ALWAYS a solution. I said it depended who was in front of them.

Do you want to imply that all uses of a firearm are problematic? that's another thread.
 
The results come from an online Harris Poll involving 2,320 adults who were surveyed online between March 1 and March 8 by Harris Interactive, a market research firm. Respondents were read each of 15 statements and asked whether they thought they were true or false.

Seriously? You buy this garbage?

I'm suggesting that there are a lot of people in America today who have some whacked out ideas...are you going to argue that?
 
Let me just say...when 25% of political party adherents believe that a sitting president is the anti-christ, houston, we have a problem that is becoming bigger than fringe.

Quarter of Republicans Think Obama May Be the Anti-Christ | LiveScience

And, when 1/3 of Americans think that the government was behind 9/11...same deal.

Third of Americans suspect 9-11 government conspiracy | ScrippsNews

The problem is that there are currently A LOT of whackdoos in this country, on both sides of the political spectrum.

You should check the dedicated thread about this. Right is one of the best people on this forum at rather objectively viewing polls for their accuracy and legitimacy and being straight about it, even when it hurts his side. He pretty much shows why its an attrociously unscientific mess.

He points to a pew one that is a good bit more reliable, though it doesn't ask about the anti-christ question, it does show something like a whopping ~40% less people think Obama is a muslim then what the Harris poll showed, which begs to question what the real number would be in regards to the "anti-christ" question. It also showed that roughly the same amount of people believed 9/11 was an inside job. Both were in the 10-15% range.
 
He was using a gun, too.

I didn't say bullets were ALWAYS a solution. I said it depended who was in front of them.

Do you want to imply that all uses of a firearm are problematic? that's another thread.

I suppose the comment was so broad speaking, I was kind of thinking "well who decides whose in front of them?"

But I do see your point. I almost have to agree in those circumstances that I overlooked earlier.
 
Republicans need to give credance and speak out every single time against the fringe lunatics in a crowd just as much as Democrast needed to do it with War Protesters.

Not much.

Obviously not practical, but we on both sides need to speak out against the nuts more often, and more completely. No "I don't like this, but...", or "but you guys did it too", just "this is wrong, the end". Some one shooting at a congressman's office is wrong, end of story. I don't care why, I don't care his motivation, none of that matters.

The problems right now are not the media, not how things are being portrayed, they are in the fact that both sides have forgotten winning is not the only thing, and that just because we disagree does not make us enemies. The only way to end this is when us normal people step up and say "stop, enough" and don't put up with it any more.
 
… If it is wrong than it is wrong. It doesn't matter who does it.

Hear! Hear!

What you fail to understand is some toothless rednecks are actually too stupid to read -- they see "Congressman" and just start shootin'...

Indeed, my belief about this incident is that someone opposed to health care reform demonstrated his opinion by firing a shot at Congress. The perpetrator didn't discriminate between Democrats and Republicans.

Why do I not figure a supporter of health care reform would fire a shot at Congress? Because, all the supporters I know are pretty happy with Congress these days.
 
He points to a pew one that is a good bit more reliable, though it doesn't ask about the anti-christ question, it does show something like a whopping ~40% less people think Obama is a muslim then what the Harris poll showed, which begs to question what the real number would be in regards to the "anti-christ" question. It also showed that roughly the same amount of people believed 9/11 was an inside job. Both were in the 10-15% range.

I think what I'm saying is that, for whatever reasons, a significant amount of Americans, from both sides of the political spectrum, have what I would consider rather absurd belief paradigms. And, they appear to be equally distributed on the right and the left. Whether they're being handled differently by the media, I have to say I don't watch enough television to be a good judge of that.

But I would say that I tend to view it rather even-handedly. I certainly don't see the right as being any crazier than the left has been over the past 10 years.
 
Indeed, my belief about this incident is that someone opposed to health care reform demonstrated his opinion by firing a shot at Congress. The perpetrator didn't discriminate between Democrats and Republicans.

Why do I not figure a supporter of health care reform would fire a shot at Congress? Because, all the supporters I know are pretty happy with Congress these days.

Psst, your prejudice is showing.
 
Wait a sec ... I thought liberals hated guns ... :shrug:

The ends justify the means.
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Obviously not practical, but we on both sides need to speak out against the nuts more often, and more completely. No "I don't like this, but...", or "but you guys did it too", just "this is wrong, the end". Some one shooting at a congressman's office is wrong, end of story. I don't care why, I don't care his motivation, none of that matters.

The problems right now are not the media, not how things are being portrayed, they are in the fact that both sides have forgotten winning is not the only thing, and that just because we disagree does not make us enemies. The only way to end this is when us normal people step up and say "stop, enough" and don't put up with it any more.

I take the reverse position. We should ignore the nuts on our side AND on the other side.
 
Indeed, my belief about this incident is that someone opposed to health care reform demonstrated his opinion by firing a shot at Congress. The perpetrator didn't discriminate between Democrats and Republicans.

Why do I not figure a supporter of health care reform would fire a shot at Congress? Because, all the supporters I know are pretty happy with Congress these days.

You can't "fire a shot at Congress" unless you fire a shot at the Capitol. You can fire a shot at a person, or a person's office. A person who in this case is a Republican who supporters of health care couldn't be less happy with.


It's pretty disgraceful that you'd get so angry about people you think are trying to take the blame off of someone who attacked a Democrat (Perriello), and then do exactly that for a Republican. At first I thought you must have been sarcastic, just to make a point.
 
It seems that bigotry is wrong, except when they do it.

No, bigotry is always wrong. I condemn it.

So did Cantor get shot at, or not? I haven't seen any video yet...
 
Wow, I thought bigotry went out of style in the 1960's.

Harry.. oh Harry you know darn well there are no liberal bigots, only those that misspeak...;)

They make up there own history, nothing they say can be reproached, any other opinion is failed logic.. pencils make mistakes and guns kill people... when gun ownership goes up so does crime.. whatever they "feel" is logical and irrefutable truth, if they have opportunity to say it enough times that is...

It goes on and on.....:doh
 
So Cantor might be lying?

Are you being sarcastic, to make a point? Because the chances of that are incredibly slim. Someone could easily just walk by his office to see if he was telling the truth, and if he wasn't, that fact would get out immediately and discredit him.
 
Not to make light of the situation, but to quote one of the comments on Wonkette about it:

"If you’re a Jew living in a Teabagger neighborhood, you *will* worship Jesus." :mrgreen:
 
I'm suggesting that there are a lot of people in America today who have some whacked out ideas...are you going to argue that?

Thats not what you were arguing. You took a ridiculous poll taken ONLINE and think it applies to reality.

If your goal was to say some people have wacked out ideas just stick with that.

Sourcing this would be like sourcing the onion for hard hitting news.
 
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Are you being sarcastic, to make a point? Because the chances of that are incredibly slim. Someone could easily just walk by his office to see if he was telling the truth, and if he wasn't, that fact would get out immediately and discredit him.

true. But I wanna see a photo of a bullet hole. There is no physical proof someone shot at him.
 
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