You don't vote for a bill. In a representative democracy, you vote for a person that you are entrusting to do your work, legislatively. That's how a representative democracy works, Dav. In my case, my representative is Alan Boyd. I know his name well because I contact his office at least once a month to express my views on one subject or another. I voted for him because I like him, and I trust him to do the job.But do you really think that everyone who voted for a Democrat in 2008 liked a bill that didn't even exist yet back then? Because I can guarantee you that's not the case (I've already noted two people I know who wouldn't have voted for a Democrat if they knew what would have come of it; if you think those are isolated cases, you haven't been paying much attention to politics lately).
You're attempting to spin it that the legislators should enact the will of a straight, overall majority of American opinion, but that is not how a representative democracy works. Legislators represent THEIR INDIVIDUAL DISTRICT'S desires and goals. That's how Nancy Pelosi is able to be repeatedly elected. She doesn't work for you, Dav. She works for millions of people in Northern California.Let me say it now though: opinion polls show the will of the people. That's actually what they're measuring, so it's hard to say that they don't.
.But now that you mention it, it's funny all the people now saying the will of the people doesn't matter when a bill is unpopular by a large margin, but were viciously against ignoring the will of the people in 2000, when their candidate won a plurality by a fraction of a percent
Interestingly enough, I explained the role of the electoral college about ten million times in 2000 and 2001, just as patiently as I'm explaining representative democracy to you. My views on how the system works have not changed, substantially, since I was in high school and being elected to state congress.
The issue has been on the Democratic agenda since 1992, and both Clinton and Obama were rather clear and specific about what they hoped to accomplish. If people didn't hear them, exactly whose fault is that?A bill that didn't exist until recently has been on the Democratic agenda since 1992?
Well, I tend to believe that we know who we're voting for in advance. That's what campaigning is for. I voted for Obama, and I realized, pretty clearly, that he would probably implement or try to implement something that looked a lot like this bill. If you didn't realize it, whose fault is that?People who vote for any Democrat at all expect them to support the entirety of the Democratic agenda?
I wouldn't say that going to war in Iraq was particularly popular. Nor was Bush's election in 2000, for that matter. We seem to have kept ourselves from outright fighting in the streets, for the most part.Question: when was the last time an important bill as unpopular as this one was approved by a slim partisan majority? Was it under Bush? Clinton? Surely in the last 20 years, right? The last 50 years? 100?
See what happens when the Democrats attempt to appease the Republicans instead of just doing their jobs?Answer: 1854. The Kansas-Nebraska Act. But people came to like that one over time... right? Hey, they voted for Democrats, so they must've secretly approved of it in the back of their minds. It's not like civil war would break out over it or anything... right?