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House GOP No. 2: Someone shot at my office

Did you vote for Obama?

This health care plan was not popular with Republicans, though it has it's roots in Romney's plan, The Heritage Foundation, Rep. Chuck Grassley's plan in 1993 (the individual mandate).

There is some unpopularity amongst Democrats because they wanted a single payer system.

This healthcare reform is not popular period.
 
This healthcare reform is not popular period.

The rightwing, tea party, "death panels and government takeover" bull**** version isn't popular. As reality seeps out, and people ask things like "why did you do X" and congressmen reply "we didn't do that" things will change a bit.

Not that there won't be plenty of lies to go around next fall.
 
This healthcare reform is not popular period.

Oh? As I explained in the post you responded to, it was very popular with Democrats a majority of which voted Obama and Democratic representatives into office. Because it was not popular with Republicans, does not mean it wasn't popular, period.
 
The rightwing, tea party, "death panels and government takeover" bull**** version isn't popular. As reality seeps out, and people ask things like "why did you do X" and congressmen reply "we didn't do that" things will change a bit.

Not that there won't be plenty of lies to go around next fall.



:roll: Yep, and as we all know all too well today, anything that doesn't fall in lockstep support of this take over by Obama and Co. is a lie, and by God, if a Congresscritter says something it should be believed hands down, and without question.

j-mac
 
You cons crack me up. Let me also make up some **** that I can sling at conservatives.

I say it was a conservative who had a family member die from lack of health insurance and decided to take out his frustration at the party of NO with a little drive by.

:2wave:
 
Oh? As I explained in the post you responded to, it was very popular with Democrats a majority of which voted Obama and Democratic representatives into office. Because it was not popular with Republicans, does not mean it wasn't popular, period.

This reform is not popular. Period.
 
The rightwing, tea party, "death panels and government takeover" bull**** version isn't popular. As reality seeps out, and people ask things like "why did you do X" and congressmen reply "we didn't do that" things will change a bit.

Not that there won't be plenty of lies to go around next fall.

Oh so now we're creating our argument on hypothetical lies that haven't been exposed yet?

That's just...wow. You guys never cease to amaze me.
 
Oh? As I explained in the post you responded to, it was very popular with Democrats a majority of which voted Obama and Democratic representatives into office. Because it was not popular with Republicans, does not mean it wasn't popular, period.
This logical exercise where supporters of Obama say that is why he was elected has yet to be proven. Where is the evidence that "Obama and the Democrats were elected overwhelmingly to pass healthcare legislation".
 
This reform is not popular. Period.

Because you say so. Oh well.

This logical exercise where supporters of Obama say that is why he was elected has yet to be proven. Where is the evidence that "Obama and the Democrats were elected overwhelmingly to pass healthcare legislation".

So, you are postulating that people actually voted for Obama, knowing he was adamantly pro-health care reform (due to his mother's problems with insurance companies), but didn't want health care legislation?

You didn't, so you didn't vote for Obama. Why shouldn't anyone else holding the same view vote for him?

Again, health care has been a huge issue with Democrats for decades. The idea that Obama and Democrats pulled it out of thin air is absurd. It was first on Clinton's list when he won the presidency. FDR and Truman also had it on their agenda.

You are not a Democrat or liberal so I guess it is no surprise that you don't get how important it an issue it is for them.
 
Because you say so. Oh well.

No, because the polls say so.

Rasmussen Poll

This health care reform is NOT popular. Many democrats don't want it because it doesnt do what they want and many republicans don't want it because it does too much.

This health care reform is not popular. I don't give a rat's ass how much stock you put in Obamessiah. This health care reform is simply not popular.
 
This health care plan was not popular with Republicans, though it has it's roots in Romney's plan, The Heritage Foundation, Rep. Chuck Grassley's plan in 1993 (the individual mandate).

Romney's plan was a key thing that hurt him during Republican primaries and he's even been on record saying it would not work on a natioanl level.

I've still yet to see ANYONE actually provide Chuck Grassley's 1993 plan beyond comparison charts with vague "Yes" and "no" answers based on the interpritation of that particular site. And even when it has been shown there is far to little data available in them to see how it compares to what is in this plan, shows there are things that conservatives like that aren't anywhere in this plan, and has no sign of a number of the things conservatives disliked about this plan.

Not to mention implying conservatives are hypocritical for not agreeing with it becasue it has similar "roots", which are questionable at best, implying those that like Football should like Golf because they both have a ball as a root to their sport.
 
Wait a sec ... I thought liberals hated guns ... :shrug:

:rofl

In fact their big fans of drive by's and street fights.
They don't like hunting and ownership for possible protection - big difference!
Guns are for crime and crime only!

:rofl
 
No, because the polls say so.

Rasmussen Poll

This health care reform is NOT popular. Many democrats don't want it because it doesnt do what they want and many republicans don't want it because it does too much.

This health care reform is not popular. I don't give a rat's ass how much stock you put in Obamessiah. This health care reform is simply not popular.

You realize, when you cite those who thought it didn't go far enough, that means they did want health care reform, right? So you think Democrats should have gone further so as to make this bill more popular with them?


As to your Rassmussen poll, I can't address it without the ability to see the cross tabs as to how many were sampled, how it breaks down by party etc...
 
Pathetic.

So many liberals have dissolved into weak kneed apologists for the violent extremists among their ranks.

Their failure to condemn these initial acts of domestic terrorism will encourage and give comfort to the instigators and ensure that there will be more terrorism committed in our land.

It's the gang that couldn't shoot straight … they got the wrong office.

[It's a shame you couldn't offer your own blanket condemnation of violence Chappy.]

And, maybe there's another more important observation than merely that these people appear to be utterly foolish in their misdeeds. And that is, when one attempts to victimize political opponents: the act itself reflects not on the character and politics of the target but rather that of the aggressor.

These recent acts bring discredit and disfavor to the supporters of health care reform; whatever merits their arguments may have had, they are brushed aside by the horror and dismay people feel towards these arbitrary acts of violence.

More important, we have entered a new era of domestic terrorism and some liberals have forgotten the central principle that under girds our
representative democracy: everyone has the right to vote their conscience.

Today, those memory impaired liberals are rapidly becoming the greatest terrorist threat to our Republic and our way of life.

I'm sure you wrote a similar diatribe bashing the disrespect in the House chamber against Dem speakers, while Republicans cheered them on, as well as the verbal atacks on Dem leaders and also those nasty threats left on Dem leaders' voicemails... right?

Maybe you haven't been watching the news lately. It's the rightees who are not only inciting violence but, conducting it. And all in the name of "bad sports"! It's the rightees who are making all the gun related threats.

Not sure if this has been mentioned here...
The Richmond Police Department is investigating an act of vandalism at the Reagan Building, 25 E. Main St., Richmond, Virginia. A first floor window was struck by a bullet at approximately 1 a.m. on Tuesday, March 23. The building, which has several tenants including an office used by Congressman Eric Cantor, was unoccupied at the time.

A Richmond Police detective was assigned to the case. A preliminary investigation shows that a bullet was fired into the air and struck the window in a downward direction, landing on the floor about a foot from the window. The round struck with enough force to break the windowpane but did not penetrate the window blinds. There was no other damage to the room, which is used occasionally for meetings by the congressman.
Richmond Police Statement On Cantor Office Vandalism | TPM LiveWire

Obviously this was not an attack. Probably not even politically based. I'd bet that had that bullet struck Cantor on top of the head his hair would have stopped it. :mrgreen:

Want some cheese and crackers with that whine:confused:
 
You realize, when you cite those who thought it didn't go far enough, that means they did want health care reform, right?

You do realize when I said, specifically, "Health care reform is popular. This health care reform is NOT popular", I really meant exactly that, right?

So you think Democrats should have gone further so as to make this bill more popular with them?

I think there should have been some different angles taken with the bill. For one, I think a public option was more appropriate than what we have now. Another, I wanted to see the tort reform, the establishment of health courts similar to other specialty courts, specific provisioning for end of life counseling independent from any government agency, specific language that barred this whole Health Choices Commissioner from having the expanded power of limiting procedures and treatments with no appeal, opening competition between insurers across state lines, etc etc.

This bill is garbage. And a majority of Americans know it.

As to your Rassmussen poll, I can't address it without the ability to see the cross tabs as to how many were sampled, how it breaks down by party etc...

In other words...

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Oh noes!!! The polls say it's not popular just like he said. Quick, find an excuse to discredit the most reputable pollster in America!
 
if the bill is popular why did obama have to SELL it yesterday in iowa city?

LOL!
 
poor president pieface

he wasn't able to get HIS WORD out

LOL!

he concentrated too much on "policy," and it was his mistake to believe that the american people would "get it"

Massachusetts vote: Barack Obama admits mistakes after loss - Telegraph

LOLOL!

what a lily livered leader

darn those lipton lovers

and FOX

how's a PRESIDENT sposed to be HEARD above all the NOISE?

i guess he just needs to GO TO IOWA

LOL!

keep SELLING health care everyday, i guess, for the rest of his soon to be truncated term

pathetic
 
i like some guns.
He does too!!!

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TC2xTCb_GU"]YouTube- I Like Guns - Steve Lee[/ame]

:gunsmilie:gunner::blastem::mod:scared:
 
No, because the polls say so.

Rasmussen Poll

This health care reform is NOT popular. Many democrats don't want it because it doesnt do what they want and many republicans don't want it because it does too much.

This health care reform is not popular. I don't give a rat's ass how much stock you put in Obamessiah. This health care reform is simply not popular.

Yep. Another Rasmussen Poll shows 55% favor repealing the health care bill, and only 42% oppose a repeal, according to the first poll released after passage. 52% would support a candidate this fall who wants to repeal the bill, while only 41% would support a candidate who opposes repeal.

Looks like the majority either don't support the bill, or they support repealing the bill. :damn
 
I hear a lot from the leftists about all the "lies" the right is telling...

I realize you don't understand that they will have to decide who gets what treatment and when, so I don't wish to discuss that one further until we start seeing it's ugly head (Death Panels)... so let's just let that one cure a bit..

What other bits of information do you believe is a lie?
 
if the bill is popular why did obama have to SELL it yesterday in iowa city?

He's simply correcting the Repukes' lies. He's got 7 months to show just how this will help people. 7 lonnnng months. :mrgreen:
 
he's already had 15 lonnnggggerrrr months

what's different now?

oh, yeah, it ALREADY PASSED

LOL!
 
I'm sure you wrote a similar diatribe bashing the disrespect in the House chamber against Dem speakers, while Republicans cheered them on, as well as the verbal atacks on Dem leaders and also those nasty threats left on Dem leaders' voicemails... right?

It was a parody post based on one made by Chappy that was almost word for word the same (only aimed at conservatives) in another thread where they lambasted someone for making excuses for the actions people took and then came in here and started making an excuse that it was really probably a confused republican.
 
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