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    Re: Israel Approves New Building in East Jerusalem

    Look... bottom line..... Israel has so little room people can barely breathe. And now this ****ing terrorists are supposed to GET it? I dont think so!

    They want to wipe every jew off the map! Hell I think Israel should NEVER have given over Gaza. Now those muslims are launching attacks from Gaza!
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    Re: Israel Approves New Building in East Jerusalem

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    i am hoping he will execute an executive order prohibiting any financial or military assistance to israel while any settlements are under construction within the disputed territories
    Well that would certainly be smart.

    Jerusalem is their Capital. It isn't a "territory".

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    Re: Israel Approves New Building in East Jerusalem

    Who created Israel out of What?

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    77% of British Mandate 'Palestine' was lopped and made Jordan, no Jews allowed.
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    Jordan is 70% 'Palestinian'.
    Leaving the other 23% divided roughly 13-10 for the Jews.

    Meaning the Arabs aka Palestinians got 87% of Mandate Palestine.
    (the Pink AND Red Areas)

    And of the Jews 13% was the Negev Desert. (lower the light Blue Area above)
    So Jews really got about 6% of the usable land of the Original Mandate.
    AND unlike in The surrounding states... Arabs still live in/make up 20% of Current Israel's population within that land.

    2/3 of what became Israel was State Land, passing from the Ottomans, to the British, to the Jews; owned by NO Arab.
    This Includes the Half alone of Israel that was/Is the Negev Desert.



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    Yes, the lower half of that little that red spot/Israel- is the Negev Desert, State Land under the Ottomans, owned by No Arab. (and about 15-20% more that was also state land). And 20% of the population of the upper half of the Red Dot- is Arab.
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    Further...
    No Land Changed Hands when the UN created Israel AND Palestine.. Resolution 181.

    It entailed Not a Single Arab having to move.

    Displacement/refugees was the Result of the ARAB-started War/rejection of the partition.
    Had they not started that war, they would probably be a majority in Israel now instead of the fully enfranchised 20% they are now.
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    Re: Israel Approves New Building in East Jerusalem

    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    Inside a city. Inside East Jerusalem which the Palestinians wish to make their capital. We heard that this extra construction is even in a Palestinian area.

    It sounds to me that Israel is just shouting very loud that she has no interest in peace.

    Both announcements timed to embarrass would seem to indicate that Israel knows that she is in for problems for going against what she said but is relying on Congress to also not be interested in peace in the ME and to go against Obama.
    Israels enemies aren't interested in peace. Why should Israel be? Her enemies wish to wipe them off the face of the earth. That is their aim.

    Israel has no reason to bow to them. Screw them.

    Look how the Muslims treat us, and all of the Western world. It is the Muslims that should be wiped from the face of the earth, in my opinion. They have said over and over that they want to wipe out Israel, and the United States.

    After 9-11, we should have taken care of the situation with nukes. Screw this Vietnam style of war. It accomplishes nothing. We had our chance. We missed it. A big nuke right in Saddams back yard, and one in Afghanistan, would have ended it like right now. A lot of American lives would have been saved.

    Why did we use nukes against Japan? To bring the war to a quick end, and save American lives.

    I know, I sound radical. But the purpose of war is to "kill people an break things". Israel understands this. We don't (apparently). We understood it once. That's how we won WWII.

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    Re: Israel Approves New Building in East Jerusalem

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    Who created Israel out of What?
    Why I agree with the premise of your map, it DOES overstate the reach of the Islamic world just a little bit. For example, most of India is NOT Islamic as suggested by your map....
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    Re: Israel Approves New Building in East Jerusalem

    Quote Originally Posted by nononsenseguy View Post
    Look how the Muslims treat us, and all of the Western world. It is the Muslims that should be wiped from the face of the earth, in my opinion. They have said over and over that they want to wipe out Israel, and the United States.
    It is about time people in the West realize that the Muslims have been at this for nearly 13 centuries. They have waged war against the Christian world for 13 centuries. Apologists want to blame U.S./European policy in the Middle East for the current state of affairs, but the fact is that Muslims have been waging jihad against Christians since the first expansion of Arab-Muslims from the Hedjaz in the 630s. Why can't people grasp this VERY SIMPLE fact?
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    Re: Israel Approves New Building in East Jerusalem

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    It is about time people in the West realize that the Muslims have been at this for nearly 13 centuries. They have waged war against the Christian world for 13 centuries. Apologists want to blame U.S./European policy in the Middle East for the current state of affairs, but the fact is that Muslims have been waging jihad against Christians since the first expansion of Arab-Muslims from the Hedjaz in the 630s. Why can't people grasp this VERY SIMPLE fact?
    Oh, the Crusades were waged by Muslims against Christians? Trying to pass off your ignorance of history as facts is pathetic. In case you forgot, it was the Holy Roman Empire that banned Jews from their holiest city. After Patriarch Sophronius surrendered the city, Caliph Umar allowed Jews back into Jerusalem after 500 years of oppressive Christian rule.

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    Re: Israel Approves New Building in East Jerusalem

    Quote Originally Posted by Degreez View Post
    Oh, the Crusades were waged by Muslims against Christians? Trying to pass off your ignorance of history as facts is pathetic. In case you forgot, it was the Holy Roman Empire that banned Jews from their holiest city. After Patriarch Sophronius surrendered the city, Caliph Umar allowed Jews back into Jerusalem after 500 years of oppressive Christian rule.
    The Crusades were a RESPONSE to centuries of Islamic aggression against Christian lands. Do you know what sparked the calls for the First Crusade in the first place?

    Be wary of casting the stone of historical ignorance lest you show it yourself.
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    Re: Israel Approves New Building in East Jerusalem

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I think you should read up on some history, Digsbe. The U.S. has NEVER acknowledged Israel's "right" to East Jerusalem.
    I don't think it matters if the US recognizes it. I believe Israel obtained it after winning a war they didn't start. Jerusalem is their capitol, why not unite it?

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    Re: Israel Approves New Building in East Jerusalem

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Two thoughts. First, the Jewish people on their own were powerless to create Israel. The UN, LED BY THE WESTERN NATIONS, created Israel out Palestine.
    That is history revisionism I'm afraid.

    Israel was created by the sweat of the Jewish people who were sitting in it, and by the actions of the Zionist movement.
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