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    Re: Israel Approves New Building in East Jerusalem

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    i am hoping he will execute an executive order prohibiting any financial or military assistance to israel while any settlements are under construction within the disputed territories
    Sure they should beat up on Israel over some housing while campaigning that they will sit down with the president of Iran without conditions.
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    Re: Israel Approves New Building in East Jerusalem

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    an indication that there are israeli actions the USA does not condone, such as the settlements within the disputed territories

    confirmation that the tail no longer wags the dog

    an evenhandedness that has not been evident since the Carter administration

    evidence to the Palestinian people and others watching that America's foreign policy is returning to one driven by sound principle



    And then Isreal no longer has to listen to us when we say "Restraint".... etc...



    I don't think we should be handing money to any other country, but there would be vast ramifications if you decided to "cut" isreal off as a threat.
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    Re: Israel Approves New Building in East Jerusalem

    Israel has every right to build in East Jerusalem. It's their city and their capitol. I'm all for it

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    Re: Israel Approves New Building in East Jerusalem

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Israel has every right to build in East Jerusalem. It's their city and their capitol. I'm all for it
    I think you should read up on some history, Digsbe. The U.S. has NEVER acknowledged Israel's "right" to East Jerusalem.

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    Re: Israel Approves New Building in East Jerusalem

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    i am hoping he will execute an executive order prohibiting any financial or military assistance to israel while any settlements are under construction within the disputed territories
    Dude... its Israels land! You saying they cant build in their OWN land?????

    These muslims have millions of square miles to build and live. The Jews????? ABout the size of Rhode Island. Screw the muslims man!
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    Re: Israel Approves New Building in East Jerusalem

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    Dude... its Israels land! You saying they cant build in their OWN land?????

    These muslims have millions of square miles to build and live. The Jews????? ABout the size of Rhode Island. Screw the muslims man!
    East Jerusalem is NOT Israeli land. Israel has claimed it, but that claim has not been recognized by any Western nation.

    Screw the idiots who don't know history!

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    Re: Israel Approves New Building in East Jerusalem

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    East Jerusalem is NOT Israeli land. Israel has claimed it, but that claim has not been recognized by any Western nation.

    Screw the idiots who don't know history!

    Sorry Catz, but you are absolutely wrong on this point. Jerusalem is as declared and backed up by the US Congress in 1995 an undivided city, and needs to remain that way.

    The Jerusalem Embassy Act of 1995[1] is a public law of the United States passed by the 104th Congress on October 23, 1995. It was passed for the purposes of initiating and funding the relocation of the United States Embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, no later than May 31, 1999, and attempted to withhold 50 percent of the funds appropriated to the State Department specifically for ‘‘Acquisition and Maintenance of Buildings Abroad’’ as allocated in fiscal year 1999 until the United States Embassy in Jerusalem had officially opened.[2] The act also called for Jerusalem to remain an undivided city and for it to be recognized as the capital of the State of Israel. Israel officially recognizes Jerusalem as its capital; the foreign policy of the United States government officially does not. The proposed law was adopted by the Senate (93-5),[3] and the House (374-37).[4]

    Jerusalem Embassy Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    It is only through the hypocrisy of the liberal left in this country that pays lip service in support of Israel, then turns as Obama did earlier in 2009 and gives aid in the form of billions of dollars to Palestinians trying to extinguish Israel, then feigns outrage when Israel builds!?

    give me a break. Israel has every right to build in its own capitol city.


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    Re: Israel Approves New Building in East Jerusalem

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    East Jerusalem is NOT Israeli land. Israel has claimed it, but that claim has not been recognized by any Western nation.

    Screw the idiots who don't know history!
    So, the recognition of Western nations is the end all and be all of legality? Nice arrogance you have appropriated to the US and other western nations...
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    Re: Israel Approves New Building in East Jerusalem

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Sorry Catz, but you are absolutely wrong on this point. Jerusalem is as declared and backed up by the US Congress in 1995 an undivided city, and needs to remain that way.

    Since June 28, 1967, East Jerusalem has been under the law, jurisdiction, and administration of the State of Israel.[13] The right of Israel to declare sovereignty over the entirety of Jerusalem is not recognized by the international community, which regarded the move as de facto annexation [14] and deemed Israeli jurisdiction invalid in a subsequent non-binding United Nations General Assembly resolution.[15] However in a reply to the resolution, Israel denied that these measures constitute annexation.[16]

    In the 1980 Basic Law, or "Jerusalem Law" Israel declared Jerusalem "complete and united", to be "the capital of Israel". The new law left the bounds of Jerusalem unspecified.[17] In response, the UN Security Council unanimously adopted the non-binding Resolution 478 (the U.S. abstained), declaring the law to be "null and void" and a violation of international law. Nevertheless, in 1988, Jordan, while rejecting Israeli sovereignty over East Jerusalem, withdrew all its claims to the West Bank (including East Jerusalem).

    The Israeli-Palestinian Declaration of Principles, signed September 13, 1993, deferred the settlement of the permanent status of Jerusalem to the final stages of negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians. The Palestinian National Authority views the future permanent status of East Jerusalem as the capital of the Palestinian state.[18] The possibility of a Palestinian capital in East Jerusalem was considered by Israel for the first time in the Taba Summit in 2001,[19] though these negotiations ended without an agreement and this possibility has not been considered by Israel since.

    In a 1991 letter, United States Secretary of State James Baker stated that the United States is "opposed to the Israeli annexation of east Jerusalem and the extension of Israeli law on it and the extension of Jerusalem’s municipal boundaries".[20] However, the U.S. Senate in 1990 had adopted a resolution "acknowledging Jerusalem as Israel's capital" and stating that it "strongly believes that Jerusalem must remain an undivided city."[21] Congress passed the Jerusalem Embassy Act on October 23, 1995, which declared that Jerusalem should remain undivided and that it should be recognized as Israel's capital.

    Some international law experts, such as Julius Stone, have argued that Israel has sovereignty over East Jerusalem under international law, since Jordan did not have legal sovereignty over the territory, and thus Israel was entitled in an act of self-defense during the Six Day War to "fill the vacuum".[22]
    It's a lot more complicated than you've implied, J-mac.
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    Re: Israel Approves New Building in East Jerusalem

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    So, the recognition of Western nations is the end all and be all of legality? Nice arrogance you have appropriated to the US and other western nations...
    No offense, but the western nations CREATED ISRAEL in the first place.

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