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    Re: bin Laden: If Khalid Shiekh Mohammed dies, so do Americans!

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Makes a lot of threats for a guy who has been hiding in the mountains for nearly a decade.
    what makes you believe he is not hiding within a palace of his saudi cousins, receiving the advanced medical treatment he needs to stay alive
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: bin Laden: If Khalid Shiekh Mohammed dies, so do Americans!

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Makes a lot of threats for a guy who has been hiding in the mountains for nearly a decade.
    He seems awfully reluctant to be a martyr as well.

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    Re: bin Laden: If Khalid Shiekh Mohammed dies, so do Americans!

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    what makes you believe he is not hiding within a palace of his saudi cousins, receiving the advanced medical treatment he needs to stay alive
    You are mightily mistaken if you think Saudi royalty would hide Osama. He advocates the violent overthrow of the kingdom. Saudi royalty walks a very fine line between maintaining profit, power, and a relationship with the mutawa.

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    Re: bin Laden: If Khalid Shiekh Mohammed dies, so do Americans!

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    He seems awfully reluctant to be a martyr as well.
    Interesting how the leaders are very quick to send others to their glorious deaths...

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    Re: bin Laden: If Khalid Shiekh Mohammed dies, so do Americans!

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I don't support the death penalty, so I would say we shouldn't put him to death. But I don't care what bin Laden says; he doesn't get to influence the system. Besides, there's no way he could get us all....or anywhere close to it.
    I agree I don't support the death penalty either, but like I said earlier he is going to die either if we do or the prisoners in general population do it. Bin Laden is just talking big and acting tough.

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    Re: bin Laden: If Khalid Shiekh Mohammed dies, so do Americans!

    I am very much Anti death penalty.
    If this person is found by a court of law, to be guilty, then I would prefer that he be locked up in Solitary Confinement for the remainder of his life.

    Think about what that means, no one to talk to or with, no TV nor Radio, no outside stimulus.
    The only reading material are the words spoken in his trial and of course a copy of the Koran.
    He would naturally be permitted 1 hour of outside his cell per day, this should be in a quadrangle with no roof but walls at 12' in height and only 1 entrance.

    Within 3 months he would be begging for the death sentence.
    regardless of whether he believes 72 Ho's would be awaiting him.

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    Re: bin Laden: If Khalid Shiekh Mohammed dies, so do Americans!

    We have a thread here about Ernesto "Che" Guevara, attacked by many as a sadistic butcher who brought about authoritarian Communism in Cuba. Neither his defenders nor detractors dispute that his image has become a popular and even commercial icon, granting him permanent cultural status. Execution of political opponents or enemies of the state may temporarily demoralize their followers, but is more likely to create a long-term martyrdom in which the ranks of these followers swell and the frequency and severity of their attacks increases. Rockets with Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi’s name on them were fired at U.S. troops shortly after his assassination:



    Consider the reaction to the assassination of Hamas co-founder and spiritual leader Ahmed Yassin by an IDF Apache helicopter with Hellfire missiles: Israel assassinates Hamas leader | World news | guardian.co.uk

    Palestinian militants today warned of swift and bloody retaliation against Israel after it "opened the gates of hell" by assassinating Ahmed Yassin, the founder and spiritual leader of militant group Hamas.

    In scenes repeated in towns across the occupied territories, angry crowds called for revenge against Israel and the US, and masked militants fired automatic rounds into the air.

    Violent clashes between demonstrators and Israeli security forces broke out and at least four Palestinians - including a 13-year-old boy and a journalist - were reported to have been killed when Israeli soldiers fired on the crowds.

    "Words cannot describe the emotion of anger and hate inside our hearts," said Hamas official Ismail Haniyeh, who was a close associate of Yassin.

    Abu Abeer, spokesman for a group of militant Palestinian organisations in the occupied territories, told pan-Arab satellite channel al-Arabiya there would be "swift and serious" repercussions.

    "They have opened the gates of hell," he warned. "For us, everything is now permissible after this assassination."

    For the first time, Hamas threatened revenge on the US as well as Israel, saying that US backing of Israel had made Yassin's assassination possible. The White House denied any involvement in the operation.

    "All the Muslims of the world will be honoured to join in on the retaliation for this crime," Hamas said in a statement.

    Within hours of the assassination, large protests erupted in Lebanon, Yemen and Egypt, where students flooded on to the streets of the capital Cairo and burned US and British flags.

    But in Kuwait - one of the US's closest allies in the Arab world - the prime minister, Sheik Sabah al-Ahmed al-Sabah, warned: "Violence will increase now, because violence always breeds violence."

    In a first response, Palestinian militants fired 10 home-made rockets toward an Israeli settlement in Gaza.
    Have you seen any parallel trend with Mohammed, or his nephew Ramzi Yousef, orchestrator of the first attack against the World Trade Center? We have not, the reason being that neither has been executed, with Mohammed being in Guantanamo Bay and Yousef in ADX Florence.

    Targeted assassination of key figures like Zarqawi and Yassin (and his successor a few weeks later), may have been justifiable because of their administrative role in aggressive terrorist operations. We have to consider cost-benefit analysis. Are these individuals so critical to the infrastructure of whatever groups they are involved in that elimination of them would ultimately cause less bloodshed than the collateral damage and retaliatory violence would?

    But Yousef, Mohammed, and others that have been captured and imprisoned are presumably not serving administrative roles in militant organizations. If they are properly guarded, they are not issuing commands to their subordinates and commissioning violent operations. Imprisonment of them has the same benefits that assassination/execution does, without the adverse consequences. Mohammed has explicitly stated that he wants to be executed and made a martyr. Why grant him that wish and energize his followers?

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    Re: bin Laden: If Khalid Shiekh Mohammed dies, so do Americans!

    Hang on. Let's see...

    If we don't kill Mohammed, Americans that are captured are spared from death.

    But if we DO kill him, the Americans captured WILL be killed.

    But he might kill the Americans anyway! Plus, he'll kill any US Americans captured in the future!

    God, this might be risky...
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    Re: bin Laden: If Khalid Shiekh Mohammed dies, so do Americans!

    if the opposition said they would try our soldiers and then put them to death, we would appropriately be outraged
    notice what the highest court officer in the nation had to say about our captured opposition leader:
    Attorney General Holder, the nation's top law-enforcement officer, has said KSM is guilty and should die
    KSM will never get a civilian trial - NYPOST.com


    so, why is anyone surprised by this threat by osama bin forgotten

    what should be surprising to everyone is how holder has managed to stay on as US attorney general given his propensity to be stupid
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: bin Laden: If Khalid Shiekh Mohammed dies, so do Americans!

    If Khalid Shiekh Mohammed dies, so do Americans!
    All the more reason to kill that mother****er.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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