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    Re: Calif. voters to decide whether to legalize pot

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    Re: Calif. voters to decide whether to legalize pot

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    A step in the right direction, but if the supply-chain isn't legalized and brought into the light of day, the effect on drug cartels will be minimal.
    Part of the law would allow growing. That kills cartel sales right there.
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    Re: Calif. voters to decide whether to legalize pot

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Part of the law would allow growing. That kills cartel sales right there.
    It would help, but honestly, people can make their own alcohol but usually go for much easier methods. I think if passed there will plenty of regulation, if nothing else just so taxes can be collected to the fullest extent.

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    Re: Calif. voters to decide whether to legalize pot

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Unfortunately...the mandate of the voters is in large part influenced by massive amounts of propoganda. Just look at prop 8. The measure was largely failing until the mormon church through million of dollars into a very deceitful campaign that scared and misled voters. I expect Mormons and evangelicals to do the same with this issue.
    Yeah, but with Prop 8 it was the last minute sermons by Catholic Churches in latino communities and Baptist Churches in black communities that tipped the scales.

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    Nor-Cal is a gimme...

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    I'd like to hear more how it will make money for the state.

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    Re: Calif. voters to decide whether to legalize pot

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Yeah, but with Prop 8 it was the last minute sermons by Catholic Churches in latino communities and Baptist Churches in black communities that tipped the scales.

    The far-rights in Riverside like their crank and dope...

    Nor-Cal is a gimme...

    The Evangelical Conservatives in Orange County will be split along generational lines...

    It comes out of the ground...

    I'd like to hear more how it will make money for the state.
    I'd like to hope that you are right.

    But I've seen California politics enough to know that when it comes to politics, the Mormons, evangelicals and right-wingers will stop at nothing...lies, fear, deception...etc to advance their agenda.
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    Re: Calif. voters to decide whether to legalize pot

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    A step in the right direction, but if the supply-chain isn't legalized and brought into the light of day, the effect on drug cartels will be minimal.

    Although already answered by Danarhea, and the initiative does take necessary steps to deal with the supply chain issue, the effect on the cartels will still be minimal, since this is but one of 50 states that are funding the cartels, and marijuana is ~60% of their income (Mexican cartels that is), and other drugs are the rest.

    Thinking that this will have a drastic effect on the cartels is premature, it would take numerous states following suit, which hopefully will occur once they realize the canary in the coal mine is singing quite happily.

    What it will do is allow resources to be better focused on real crime, and it will reduce the amount of money going to local gangs, which in turn will have a negative pressure on gang allure and influence on kids.
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    Re: Calif. voters to decide whether to legalize pot

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Not everything. There are certain issues that the right-wing is particularly virol about. Gay rights is one of them. Legalization of marijuana is another.
    Yea, they certainly seem to be furious about weed:

    Republicans Favor Medical Marijuana, Poll Shows - City Room Blog - NYTimes.com

    Medical marijuana’s support among voters in New York State is so solid that even a substantial majority of Republicans favor its legalization, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released Thursday. The poll found that 71 percent of voters supported medical marijuana, including 55 percent of registered Republicans.
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    Re: Calif. voters to decide whether to legalize pot

    Here's what I find most interesting:

    If approved, the initiative would allow those 21 years and older to possess up to one ounce of marijuana, enough to roll several marijuana cigarettes.
    Uh...how fat is this reporter rolling his joints if an ounce only equals "several"?

    For reference:



    That's an ounce. It's about 60 joints (according to the internets).
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    Re: Calif. voters to decide whether to legalize pot

    Here is the link to the text of the initiative at the dedicated website for this campaign:

    http://www.taxcannabis.org/index.php/pages/initiative/
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    Re: Calif. voters to decide whether to legalize pot

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    It is now official. Legalization of marijuana is now on the ballot in California....

    1) And what better way to fight the War on Drugs than to deprive the cartels of a huge chunk of their revenues.

    2) Freeing up law enforcement resources to fight real crime? Yup.

    3) But most importantly, recognizing that the only time it becomes the government's business to meddle in someone's private life is if that someone violates the rights of someone else.

    California is frequently an experiment for the rest of the nation. Witness the property tax rebellion which began there, and soon spread to the other states. It's the same here. If California passes this law, and legal weed is dealt with responsibly by both citizens and authorities, it may be the beginning of the end of the Marijuana Tax Act, and government interference in the business of the states on the issue of drugs.

    Sure, a lot of Liberals are outspoken about smoking weed, but guess what? Legalization of it is a truly Conservative idea, from the standpoint of smaller government and more personal freedom, not to mention the 10th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States.

    I might also mention that more than a few Conservatives have a toke too, now and then. It is high time they came out of the closet on this issue, and started acting like Conservatives, for a change.

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