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    Re: Ban smoking in all vehicles, doctors demand

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    There are places now that will come after mom if she smokes in her own home and towns in California where if you smoke in your own back yard and your neighbor complains you can be fined.

    San Diego band smoking on all beaches.
    Good. Smoking should be banned in ALL public places as well as places where your smoke invades the private space of others.

    It's out of control Nanny State BS.
    NYC has an idiot who wants to ban salt use in all restaurants. Come on people sooner or later this crap has got to stop.
    This is absurd, and frankly, it is not the same issue as smoking. Banning smoking protects the legitimate rights of non-smokers. Banning salt in restaurants is just plain DUMB!!! Someone should tell them that many historians believe the civilization known as Great Zimbabwe may well have fallen due to a LACK of salt...

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    Re: Ban smoking in all vehicles, doctors demand

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post

    This is absurd, and frankly, it is not the same issue as smoking. Banning smoking protects the legitimate rights of non-smokers. Banning salt in restaurants is just plain DUMB!!! Someone should tell them that many historians believe the civilization known as Great Zimbabwe may well have fallen due to a LACK of salt...
    I would like to know the sodium content of the food I'm ingesting though considering for my condition it is extremely bad for my health. I'm on a restricted diet of 2000mg of salt per day.

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    Re: Ban smoking in all vehicles, doctors demand

    Yeah, but knowing is different than regulating or banning.
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    Re: Ban smoking in all vehicles, doctors demand

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Yeah, but knowing is different than regulating or banning.
    It would take regulation like it has in the past with food labeling for this knowledge to be public.

    And this is a real pisser of mine. When I first went of the diet my girlfriend got fooled. she bought what she thought was diet low sodium salami. The nutritional info was printed in red on clear plastic with the red meat as the background. Even I was fooled and thought it was 37 mgs of sodium with the red on red it was really 375mgs of sodium. I put on about 10 lbs in fluid retention overnight and was almost hospitalized again.
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    Re: Ban smoking in all vehicles, doctors demand

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    It would take regulation like it has in the past with food labeling for this knowledge to be public.
    That's not the same thing.

    Regulating the content is not the same as regulating what should be known about the content.

    If they merely regulated labels and required the content to be researched and made known then no one would really be complaining.
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    Re: Ban smoking in all vehicles, doctors demand

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    I can understand the sentiment where young children are concerned as they have no right to refuse to enter but this is a step too far. Not only is the idea of a ban in private space totally idiotic but hugely unenforcible - and I'm not a smoker..
    Nope...government can say what they want. Ban smoking altogether. Think of the children...

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    Re: Ban smoking in all vehicles, doctors demand

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    If they merely regulated labels and required the content to be researched and made known then no one would really be complaining.
    people are already complaining about the new regs for restaurants to publish nutritional info on their menus.

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    Re: Ban smoking in all vehicles, doctors demand

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    people are already complaining about the new regs for restaurants to publish nutritional info on their menus.
    I don't have a problem with that, many consumers do have health problems and they should have available information......but my agreement stops at informing consumers, not regulating things to "protect" every single person for x reason.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Ban smoking in all vehicles, doctors demand

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    people are already complaining about the new regs for restaurants to publish nutritional info on their menus.
    I'm not, though - that's one thing I do support. If I'm going to buy it and eat it I'd like to know what's in it.

    It's unlikely to stop anyone in mass number from eating it, though, but will allow those who are concerned with what they eat to make a more informed decision.
    McD's, Subway, etc, provide nutritional info - and it hasn't really hurt their business, imho.
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    Re: Ban smoking in all vehicles, doctors demand

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    I'm not, though - that's one thing I do support. If I'm going to buy it and eat it I'd like to know what's in it.

    It's unlikely to stop anyone in mass number from eating it, though, but will allow those who are concerned with what they eat to make a more informed decision.
    McD's, Subway, etc, provide nutritional info - and it hasn't really hurt their business, imho.
    I'm a little bit torn on the issue because of places that rotate menus, change menus often. Places that basically have something like a chalk board menu that changes often if not daily.

    Catch ya later I gotta go get my warfarin blood test.

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