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    Re: UK expels Israeli Diplomat

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Why would ejecting the Israeli ambassador appeal to "populist" voters?
    I've explained it in another thread (There are like 3 identical threads on this issue scattered around this forum).

    Here's the comment that explains why it is my opinion(as is Laila's, seeing the OP, and as many other people's opinions) that it is mainly a populist action:

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse
    I don't even blame the British government for the action, as they didn't have much choice seeing the situation that they are at.
    The absolute majority of the British public believes that Israel is behind the terrorist-chief's killing, and Gordon Brown's Labour party is doing bad in popularity.
    Such a populist action is life-saving for them.
    Most of the British people believe it was Israel that has taken out the terrorist chief, and hence desire to see an action taken against Israel surrounding the issue.
    "The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis."

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    Re: UK expels Israeli Diplomat

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    You're referring to two rightist Knesset members.

    Yes probably. I couldn't remember who exactly they said it was. I thought some members of the Government but not remembering thought it best just to say in Israel.
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    Re: UK expels Israeli Diplomat

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    What political reasons could possibly motivate the UK to expell a diplomat?
    What do you mean by "political reasons"?
    Political agenda(interests), or political status(current status of the Labour party)?
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    Re: UK expels Israeli Diplomat

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse
    The UK did not cut off its ties with Israel - where did you get that from?
    Asked again, since it was dodged by Catz.
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    Re: UK expels Israeli Diplomat

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Most of the British people believe it was Israel that has taken out the terrorist chief, and hence desire to see an action taken against Israel surrounding the issue.
    So you believe that this is a more likely reason than the expressed reason by British diplomats? I find that rather humorous.

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    Re: UK expels Israeli Diplomat

    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    Yes probably. I couldn't remember who exactly they said it was. I thought some members of the Government but not remembering thought it best just to say in Israel.
    Correction; I've just recalled that those two Knesset members are members of "Ha'Yihud Ha'Leumi", a far-right party, not a rightist party.
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    Re: UK expels Israeli Diplomat

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post


    Most of the British people believe it was Israel that has taken out the terrorist chief, and hence desire to see an action taken against Israel surrounding the issue.

    It so has nothing to do with that. It is to do with the integrity of our passports, the safety of our citizens and not being used.

    When our government has to tell us to take care that officials in a country don't take our passports away, there is very little trust in the integrity of that country left.

    But we have to do that. We have to protect the integrity of our passports, the safety of our citizens and our name.
    George Monboit "Neoliberalism is inherently incompatible with democracy, as people will always rebel against the austerity and fiscal tyranny it prescribes. Something has to give, and it must be the people. This is the true road to serfdom: disinventing democracy on behalf of the elite."

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    Re: UK expels Israeli Diplomat

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    So you believe that this is a more likely reason than the expressed reason by British diplomats? I find that rather humorous.
    I strongly believe that if the Labour party was not in its current popularity stance, the reaction would be quite softer.

    I'm glad you find it humorous, but your baseless painting of my opinion as if I believe that the British government was motivated by antisemitic causes if far from being humorous, and is crossing every kind of line.
    That was purely trolling, and you should know it yourself.
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    Re: UK expels Israeli Diplomat

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Correction; I've just recalled that those two Knesset members are members of "Ha'Yihud Ha'Leumi", a far-right party, not a rightist party.
    well I really do not know who they are. I only know we were being told we were being called 'antisemetic dogs' It does not help to build good feeling.

    Do you want to give fuller details of what they said and whether they were asked to mind their language as one member of our Parliament was yesterday when speaking about Israel but being far less rude?
    George Monboit "Neoliberalism is inherently incompatible with democracy, as people will always rebel against the austerity and fiscal tyranny it prescribes. Something has to give, and it must be the people. This is the true road to serfdom: disinventing democracy on behalf of the elite."

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    Re: UK expels Israeli Diplomat

    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    It so has nothing to do with that. It is to do with the integrity of our passports, the safety of our citizens and not being used.

    When our government has to tell us to take care that officials in a country don't take our passports away, there is very little trust in the integrity of that country left.

    But we have to do that. We have to protect the integrity of our passports, the safety of our citizens and our name.
    That's why I do not blame the British government for the act.
    They were pushed into this, they had to state that they see this as a severe situation, since the public has demanded that.
    "The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis."

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