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    Re: Parliamentarian Weighing GOP Challenge to Reconciliation Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Does that mean you are not going to answer my previous question to you?
    "how many years have SS/M/M been upheld (not overturned)???"
    Your question is irrelevant to the accuracy and correctness of my statement - a statement you agreed to.

    You misinterpreted my statement. I did not say there was a Congressional rule that could overturn the Bush tax cuts passed by simple majority vote on a reconciliation bill. What I am saying is the the same rules that made the Bush tax cut legislation legal by a majority vote, makes the HCR legislation legal by a majority vote.
    No one has ever questioned that.

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    Re: Parliamentarian Weighing GOP Challenge to Reconciliation Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post

    No one has ever questioned that.
    LOL! Good to know no one ever questioned the Democrats using Reconciliation to pass HCR.
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    Re: Parliamentarian Weighing GOP Challenge to Reconciliation Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    LOL! Good to know no one ever questioned the Democrats using Reconciliation to pass HCR.
    I wasn't talking about that, I was talking about a majority vote passing a bill.
    No one has ever questioned that.

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    Re: Parliamentarian Weighing GOP Challenge to Reconciliation Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    I wasn't talking about that, I was talking about a majority vote passing a bill.
    No one has ever questioned that.
    We were discussing the Bush tax cuts which were passed by reconciliation, passed with a simple majority. Just as the HCR Reconciliation bill was passed by a simple majority vote.

    And it was questioned.

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    Re: Parliamentarian Weighing GOP Challenge to Reconciliation Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    We were discussing the Bush tax cuts which were passed by reconciliation, passed with a simple majority. Just as the HCR Reconciliation bill was passed by a simple majority vote.
    And it was questioned.
    The 'question' here is the validity of using reconcillaion in this partucular instance, not that a simple majoirty on the vote for bill itself is necessary to pass it.

    Reconcilliation is a means to get the bill to the floor for a vote; no one questions that once that vote is taken, a simple majority passes it.

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    Re: Parliamentarian Weighing GOP Challenge to Reconciliation Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    The 'question' here is the validity of using reconcillaion in this partucular instance, not that a simple majoirty on the vote for bill itself is necessary to pass it.
    Too bad the GOP appointed Parliamentarian did not question the validity of using reconciliation in this "partucular" instance.
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    Re: Parliamentarian Weighing GOP Challenge to Reconciliation Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Too bad the GOP appointed Parliamentarian did not question the validity of using reconciliation in this "partucular" instance.
    Which isnt relevant.
    As I said - Reconcilliation is a means to get the bill to the floor for a vote; no one questions that once that vote is taken, a simple majority passes it.

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    Re: Parliamentarian Weighing GOP Challenge to Reconciliation Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Which isnt relevant.
    As I said - Reconcilliation is a means to get the bill to the floor for a vote; no one questions that once that vote is taken, a simple majority passes it.
    And the Parliamentarian decides what is valid to be included in a reconciliation bill.
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    Re: Parliamentarian Weighing GOP Challenge to Reconciliation Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    And the Parliamentarian decides what is valid to be included in a reconciliation bill.
    Which, again, is meaningless in regards to the 'no one has questioned the simple majority vote' point.

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    Re: Parliamentarian Weighing GOP Challenge to Reconciliation Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Which, again, is meaningless in regards to the 'no one has questioned the simple majority vote' point.
    Glad to have you agree with the Parliamentarian decision that the HCR was valid to be decided via reconciliation.
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