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    Re: Parliamentarian Weighing GOP Challenge to Reconciliation Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    It should be interesting to see how badly he will **** that up. He's set the bar pretty high with this health care debacle.
    I said it two months ago when the tide of public sentiment was fully against the health care legislation and more, the bribes that were going on...

    before the November election there will be at least a massive push to afford illegal immigrants and paroled felons voting rights.

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    Re: Parliamentarian Weighing GOP Challenge to Reconciliation Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I am one of those people that see no purpose in beating a dead horse.

    The bill has passed already and been signed into law. If you have suggestions as to how the bill can be improved, then you should get them off to your congressman.

    There are many improvements that are already planned for the bill. What are your ideas?
    Yes, the bill passed....... with Billions of dollars worth of bribes.

    The American people will speak this next November. If things go the way they look right now this bill will be fixed...... by de-funding it until it can be repealed in 2013.

    Good job Dems.
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    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: Parliamentarian Weighing GOP Challenge to Reconciliation Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Your point is moot. The bill was passed by majority vote.
    You mean SIMPLE majority... big UNCONSTITUTIONAL difference!

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    Re: Parliamentarian Weighing GOP Challenge to Reconciliation Bill

    cbs poll yesterday: 62% want the gop to keep fighting this bill

    including FORTY ONE % of dems!

    Poll: Most Want GOP to Keep Fighting on Health Bill - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

    never fear, america, we will

    and we will be rewarded immensely for doing so

    indeed, our rewards will be so great and coast-to-coast wide, most of this chimerical contraption will never become effect

    we lead IN PENNSYLVANIA by up to TWENTY POINTS

    we lead in MICHIGAN by up to TWENTY POINTS

    we lead in VERMONT by between SEVEN and THIRTEEN

    we lead in CALIFORNIA by a HALF DOZEN

    we lead in ohio, in wisconsin, in iowa...

    RealClearPolitics - Latest Election Polls

    all of these states except for the green mountains represent gop pickups

    do you know what numbers like this portend?

    do you appreciate the role these states play in presidentials?

    do you comprehend the effect a party's control of a state capital plays every 4 years?

    you don't suppose the people in all these states have been watching the health care debate, do you?

    party on, progressives

    represent, be proud!

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    Re: Parliamentarian Weighing GOP Challenge to Reconciliation Bill

    Latest update on Parliamentarian decisions ~

    "During Wednesday's debate on a series of amendments to the reconciliation bill, Senate Parliamentarian Alan Frumin agreed with Senate Republicans that at least two of the bill's provisions do not comply with parliamentary rules for a budget reconciliation bill, The Hill reports (Rushing, The Hill, 3/25). Under the rules, all provisions in the bill must directly affect government spending or revenues.

    According to the New York Times, one of the issues involved changes to the Pell grant program for college students as part of a broader proposal to overhaul the federal student loan programs.

    Senate Budget Committee Chair Kent Conrad (D-N.D.) said that the second problem is with technical language, which he said was mostly insignificant, and that the parliamentarian was reviewing a third issue.

    Kate Cyrul -- a spokesperson for Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee Chair Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) -- said the problems would not affect the new health reform law or the student loans proposals and predicted that the House would pass the bill swiftly with only minor revisions (Herszenhorn/Pear, New York Times, 3/25).

    Under an agreement between Senate Democrats and Republicans, debate on several remaining Republican amendments is scheduled to be completed Thursday morning before a final vote is called at about 2 p.m. ET, the Wall Street Journal reports (Hitt, Wall Street Journal, 3/25).

    Democratic staffers said they are confident that the revised reconciliation bill will not face additional challenges in the House, where it is expected to receive final approval before the weekend, according to the Post (Washington Post, 3/25). Final passage in the House would clear the way for Obama to sign the bill into law (The Hill, 3/25)."

    Parliamentary Issues Send 'Corrections' Bill Back to House for Revote - California Healthline
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    Re: Parliamentarian Weighing GOP Challenge to Reconciliation Bill

    yes, and gop parliamentarians forced the party in power to INCLUDE veteran heroes who've suffered amputations in the NEW TAX obamacare IMPOSES on PROSTHETICS and other medical DEVICES

    obamacare---EXEMPTIONS FOR THE SEIU

    AND EXTRA TAXES FOR WOUNDED WARRIORS WHO'VE LOST A LIMB!

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    Re: Parliamentarian Weighing GOP Challenge to Reconciliation Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    yes, and gop parliamentarians forced the party in power to INCLUDE veteran heroes who've suffered amputations in the NEW TAX obamacare IMPOSES on PROSTHETICS and other medical DEVICES

    obamacare---EXEMPTIONS FOR THE SEIU

    AND EXTRA TAXES FOR WOUNDED WARRIORS WHO'VE LOST A LIMB!
    Have they gotten coverage of pre-existing for children yet?

    Barry thought that was included... it wasn't....... just goes to show he certainly didn't read his bill.
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: Parliamentarian Weighing GOP Challenge to Reconciliation Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Bassman View Post
    12?? Try 38.
    38 states, together, can do anything.

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    Re: Parliamentarian Weighing GOP Challenge to Reconciliation Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The experts are saying it is unlikely the courts would overturn the Health care reform on Constitutional grounds as there is precedence:
    You mean the expert you cited. Big whoop.

    The federal government requiring people to buy something based on nothing other than their being a citizen, and penalizing them if they do not, is unprecdented - and, especially in ths case, is certainly without Constitutional basis.

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    Re: Parliamentarian Weighing GOP Challenge to Reconciliation Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I can guarantee that the party of NO will oppose any reform of immigration.
    Especially one that contains the typical liberal positions on same -- and I will applaud them for doing so.

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