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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    It's not generosity when someone steals something from someone else on your behalf and gives it to you.
    Well, that's debatable. It depends who the goose is. It's a basic chicken or egg question when it comes to, so called, wealth.

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by USA-1 View Post
    Did you copy that off the Glenn Beck website?
    If this is such a good plan why didn't the republicans implement it during the 6 years they had the power?

    All of the above points might save a few dollars yet do not address the main problems of 30 million uninsured.
    Why didn't Clinton in the 1990s??

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by USA-1 View Post
    Gee, everything is a gamble. There are no sure things in life. Every decision our leaders make is a gamble. You act like the healthcare reform hasn't been on the table for the last 40 years.
    It has but not anything I would put my name on as "reform."

    We have good predictability with economic factors.
    We know that behavior is the largest single thing effecting medical care.
    Nothing has been done to address personal behavior.
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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    To anybody here who earns more than 250 k per year I am now thanking you in advance for your wonderful generosity.
    Oh you are so wrong it isn't even funny. Your taxes just went up too.
    First - You have to maintain insurance, and premiums are going up. So thank you for supporting those idiots in congress and especially that bafoon in the White House, because I am a life health agent and work off commission, you just gave me a raise. LOL!
    Second - medical equipment is now taxable, so everything that has an FDA stamp on it, including toothbrushes, dental floss, water picks, toothpaste, etc. are now subject to the new assessed taxes. Congratulations you voted yourself a tax increase.
    Third - when you do get a health plan that is suitable, if it's a cadillac plan you just got a new tax. HA HA.
    Fourth - If you don't have insurance and are accepted onto the public rolls, you have to ask permission to see your doctor. I present insurance card and get preference.
    So I'm sorry, you were saying? BTW, thanks for the raise, hope you enjoy your taxes.
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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Why didn't Clinton in the 1990s??
    He did.

    Hilarycare.
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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    The plan is organized around seven principles:

    First, it offers every American an opportunity to obtain a balanced, comprehensive range of health insurance benefits;

    Second, it will cost no American more than he can afford to pay;
    Third, it builds on the strength and diversity of our existing public and private systems of health financing and harmonizes them into an overall system;

    Fourth, it uses public funds only where needed and requires no new Federal taxes;

    Fifth, it would maintain freedom of choice by patients and ensure that doctors work for their patient, not for the Federal Government.

    Sixth, it encourages more effective use of our health care resources;

    And finally, it is organized so that all parties would have a direct stake in making the system work--consumer, provider, insurer, State governments and the Federal Government.
    "This Administration will constantly strive to promote an ownership society in America. We want more people owning their own home. It is in our national interest that more people own their own home. After all, if you own your own home, you have a vital stake in the future of our country."" GWB

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by USA-1 View Post
    The plan is organized around seven principles:

    First, it offers every American an opportunity to obtain a balanced, comprehensive range of health insurance benefits;

    Second, it will cost no American more than he can afford to pay;
    Third, it builds on the strength and diversity of our existing public and private systems of health financing and harmonizes them into an overall system;

    Fourth, it uses public funds only where needed and requires no new Federal taxes;

    Fifth, it would maintain freedom of choice by patients and ensure that doctors work for their patient, not for the Federal Government.

    Sixth, it encourages more effective use of our health care resources;

    And finally, it is organized so that all parties would have a direct stake in making the system work--consumer, provider, insurer, State governments and the Federal Government.
    You should check out the CBO report on this.

    The 3 things I liked about the bill were in every incarnation before it.

    All I got added this time around was bad news.
    Thank you

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by USA-1 View Post
    Did you copy that off the Glenn Beck website?
    If this is such a good plan why didn't the republicans implement it during the 6 years they had the power?

    All of the above points might save a few dollars yet do not address the main problems of 30 million uninsured.
    What's your fiduciary or financial expertise again? Yeah, thought so.
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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Oh you are so wrong it isn't even funny. Your taxes just went up too.
    First - You have to maintain insurance, and premiums are going up. So thank you for supporting those idiots in congress and especially that bafoon in the White House, because I am a life health agent and work off commission, you just gave me a raise. LOL!
    Second - medical equipment is now taxable, so everything that has an FDA stamp on it, including toothbrushes, dental floss, water picks, toothpaste, etc. are now subject to the new assessed taxes. Congratulations you voted yourself a tax increase.
    Third - when you do get a health plan that is suitable, if it's a cadillac plan you just got a new tax. HA HA.
    Fourth - If you don't have insurance and are accepted onto the public rolls, you have to ask permission to see your doctor. I present insurance card and get preference.
    So I'm sorry, you were saying? BTW, thanks for the raise, hope you enjoy your taxes.
    I honestly could care less. I will just work more and make more money to make up for it. We are all brothers and sisters.

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Why didn't Clinton in the 1990s??
    He tried.....
    "This Administration will constantly strive to promote an ownership society in America. We want more people owning their own home. It is in our national interest that more people own their own home. After all, if you own your own home, you have a vital stake in the future of our country."" GWB

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