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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    And thus America begins it's decline with thunderous applause. The American people just got ignored, the special interests of the insurance companies just won, and the American people just got smacked in the face. Tonight is a real Obummer. Let's hope the courts can shoot down this illegal legislation.

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGirlNextDoor View Post
    No, hate that I will and my children will be paying for this bull****.

    Correctness is working for what is yours and taking care of business. Period. I do it every day.

    Do you?
    I pay taxes, just like everybody else. Problem is, I don't get to decide on how my taxes are spent...both of my Texas Senators are Republicans, John Cornyn, and Kay Bailey Hutchinson, whom I loathe with every breath in me.
    I hate that my taxes are going for 2 illegal wars, that was started by the previous administration....so I feel you, on having to pay for BS.

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    Why all the doom and gloom? This sorry a** bill don’t start kicking in until 2014,just maybe we can tinker with it and make it single payer before then.
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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by aaronssongs View Post
    I pay taxes, just like everybody else. Problem is, I don't get to decide on how my taxes are spent...both of my Texas Senators are Republicans, John Cornyn, and Kay Bailey Hutchinson, whom I loathe with every breath in me.
    I hate that my taxes are going for 2 illegal wars, that was started by the previous administration....so I feel you, on having to pay for BS.
    I'm in Texas too, Aaron. Where you at?

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    If this thing does in fact become law, I will make it a point to laugh at every single UHC supporter that lose their jobs or retirement, they were warned of the consequences and did not pay attention. Good luck.
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    Seriously, I am nervous about this because I don't fully understand it. The proponents make just as strong a case as the opponents. And this thing is so huge I can't even begin to anticipate the impact it may or may not have on the economy.

    One thing is for sure as far as I'm concerned, there are a lot of extremist comments from both sides of this argument. I've been hearing that this country was doomed and going to explode, implode, go up in smoke, freeze, and everything else for years. The partisan hype machines always make these claims and the screamers pick up on it.

    We're still here. How about somebody tell me how this bill will devastate the economy? How about somebody tell me how this bill won't devastate the economy. Because I see no definitive proof either way. And that's a problem. This thing is so muddy to me that I don't know whether to be happy (small business owner struggling with health insurance premiums in excess of $800 a month for my family on a plan that is not that great in my opinion) or be terrified (small business owner struggling with health insurance premiums in excess of $800 dollars a month for my family with what might be a better plan than I'll get through this thing).

    I really do believe in the idea of every man, woman, and child having ready access to adequate health care. I just have to admit I have no idea what the ramifications of a plan to provide that really are.
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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by aaronssongs View Post
    I pay taxes, just like everybody else. Problem is, I don't get to decide on how my taxes are spent...both of my Texas Senators are Republicans, John Cornyn, and Kay Bailey Hutchinson, whom I loathe with every breath in me.
    I hate that my taxes are going for 2 illegal wars, that was started by the previous administration....so I feel you, on having to pay for BS.
    The wars were not illegal....

    Enjoy you ****ing free healthcare,...

    Here's to the fact that it will be worth what you ****ing paid for it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    If this thing does in fact become law, I will make it a point to laugh at every single UHC supporter that lose their jobs or retirement, they were warned of the consequences and did not pay attention. Good luck.
    So what exactly are the known consequences? How do you KNOW there will be a hug job loss? Many people screamed we would be in a full blown depression by now, they also said the earth would be a smoldering mass global melt down.

    I mean seriously, can you show me the path to ruin here...in objective terms?
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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    Seriously, I am nervous about this because I don't fully understand it. The proponents make just as strong a case as the opponents. And this thing is so huge I can't even begin to anticipate the impact it may or may not have on the economy.

    One thing is for sure as far as I'm concerned, there are a lot of extremist comments from both sides of this argument. I've been hearing that this country was doomed and going to explode, implode, go up in smoke, freeze, and everything else for years. The partisan hype machines always make these claims and the screamers pick up on it.

    We're still here. How about somebody tell me how this bill will devastate the economy? How about somebody tell me how this bill won't devastate the economy. Because I see no definitive proof either way. And that's a problem. This thing is so muddy to me that I don't know whether to be happy (small business owner struggling with health insurance premiums in excess of $800 a month for my family on a plan that is not that great in my opinion) or be terrified (small business owner struggling with health insurance premiums in excess of $800 dollars a month for my family with what might be a better plan than I'll get through this thing).

    I really do believe in the idea of every man, woman, and child having ready access to adequate health care. I just have to admit I have no idea what the ramifications of plan to provide that really are.
    Here is a great breakdown for you, or anybody else that wants to use it.
    No spin, no commentary. just what is in the bill in an easier format to read.
    http://www.kff.org/healthreform/uplo...bill_final.pdf
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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    Seriously, I am nervous about this because I don't fully understand it. The proponents make just as strong a case as the opponents. And this thing is so huge I can't even begin to anticipate the impact it may or may not have on the economy.

    One thing is for sure as far as I'm concerned, there are a lot of extremist comments from both sides of this argument. I've been hearing that this country was doomed and going to explode, implode, go up in smoke, freeze, and everything else for years. The partisan hype machines always make these claims and the screamers pick up on it.

    We're still here. How about somebody tell me how this bill will devastate the economy? How about somebody tell me how this bill won't devastate the economy. Because I see no definitive proof either way. And that's a problem. This thing is so muddy to me that I don't know whether to be happy (small business owner struggling with health insurance premiums in excess of $800 a month for my family on a plan that is not that great in my opinion) or be terrified (small business owner struggling with health insurance premiums in excess of $800 dollars a month for my family with what might be a better plan than I'll get through this thing).

    I really do believe in the idea of every man, woman, and child having ready access to adequate health care. I just have to admit I have no idea what the ramifications of plan to provide that really are.
    Ignore the doom and gloom, the market might take a big hit this week but it will recover.

    There are a few things to consider.
    Premiums will go up, it's been admitted even by the Democrats.
    The true cost of the program is not completely apparent yet, because they haven't passed all the legislation associated with it.

    It really depends on what you think is important but if it's the national debt.
    You won't like this bill.
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