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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    They do it with car insurance.
    Different circumstances altogether. One, it's a state-mandated issue, not federal. Two, you buy car insurance to protect yourself and your car from other idiots who cause damage. With health insurance, you are paying for your own gamble.
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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Whats interesting though is that they don't all oppose it for the same reasons. If you look at this poll, 13% of those opposed to it are opposed to it because it is not liberal enough (figure 21).

    http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/im...3/22/rel5a.pdf
    True, and this is important in evaluating what the numbers mean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Different circumstances altogether. One, it's a state-mandated issue, not federal. Two, you buy car insurance to protect yourself and your car from other idiots who cause damage. With health insurance, you are paying for your own gamble.
    Health insurance protects others from having to pay for you. Not all that different.

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Health insurance protects others from having to pay for you. Not all that different.
    Total bull****, I would know, it's one line of sales in my profession. You pay into a pool of money, weighted against risk. But please feel free to keep up with this fallacy, wouldn't want the facts to get in the way of your rant.
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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    I'm still confused as hell about his bill. I original supported the public option, then I was unsure.

    IMHO, the only victory the GOP and Dems have actually achieved is confusing the American people.


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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by USA-1 View Post
    Where was your concern when Bush got us into a war that will cost more than this heathcare bill?
    Where did you get the idea that I supported Bush's war and what does this have to do with anything I've said?
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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Health insurance protects others from having to pay for you. Not all that different.
    Very different. If you buy health insurance, and you get creamed in a car accident and spend 6 months in an ICU on a ventilator, you haven't paid in squat compared to what you are costing. The health insurance premiums on all the other carriers go up to pay for you. In government health care, people like me will pay much more than we utilize to take care of people who don't pay a dime. Sorry, but I'm not a bleeding heart. Bleeding hearts are bleeding this country to death.
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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    I'm still confused as hell about his bill. I original supported the public option, then I was unsure.

    IMHO, the only victory the GOP and Dems have actually achieved is confusing the American people.
    Very true! The health care bill is confusing, but what we do know is that massive tax increases are quickly heading our direction.

    It's like being in the eye of the storm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Very different. If you buy health insurance, and you get creamed in a car accident and spend 6 months in an ICU on a ventilator, you haven't paid in squat compared to what you are costing. The health insurance premiums on all the other carriers go up to pay for you. In government health care, people like me will pay much more than we utilize to take care of people who don't pay a dime. Sorry, but I'm not a bleeding heart. Bleeding hearts are bleeding this country to death.
    It's called socialism. This is exactly what will happen in a redistributive socialized health care system. And guess what? There's also 'rationed care' due to overwhelming the system with too many patients. So not only do you pay more, but you get much less in return.

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    I'm still confused as hell about his bill. I original supported the public option, then I was unsure.
    That's one of the reasons we have ended up with this monstrosity. People trust their government to make good decisions, and they don't inform themselves. Yeah, I know it's a pain in the ass, but it pays off to have an informed public.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post

    IMHO, the only victory the GOP and Dems have actually achieved is confusing the American people.
    There was no victory for the GOP. If people are confused, it's because they are willingly confused.
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