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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    So I decided to turn the television back to the news channels to get their commentary on this issue.

    Holy **** my head is going to explode. I'm more confused now than I was when I was just reading the link that Crip gave me last night. At this time I see no direct benefit to me at this point, and that's okay. I'm fortunate in that I have health insurance and can afford it to pay my premiums. I can see where we will obviously be spending more tax dollars on this, and I'm not totally opposed to that.

    However, I'm waiting for the spending offset. Where are we going to reduce in order to carry this? Are we going to end the occupation of Iraq? That would help. Are we going to end the war on drugs? That would help.

    I like the idea of providing access to health care to every American. But I would like to see Congress really detail how we are going to pay for it.
    *insert profound statement here*

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I expect this bill will have a restraining order slapped on it to stop it from going into effect and all the lawsuits combined and then it will end up in the SCOTUS....

    I don't see how the government can force you to buy health insurance and fine you if you don't do it....Justice Kennedy will decide this thing by and 5-4 vote in favor of the people of the U.S. and Obama socialist health care will end up in the trash can where it belongs.........


    Take it to the bank...........
    They do it with car insurance.

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    So I decided to turn the television back to the news channels to get their commentary on this issue.

    Holy **** my head is going to explode. I'm more confused now than I was when I was just reading the link that Crip gave me last night. At this time I see no direct benefit to me at this point, and that's okay. I'm fortunate in that I have health insurance and can afford it to pay my premiums. I can see where we will obviously be spending more tax dollars on this, and I'm not totally opposed to that.

    However, I'm waiting for the spending offset. Where are we going to reduce in order to carry this? Are we going to end the occupation of Iraq? That would help. Are we going to end the war on drugs? That would help.

    I like the idea of providing access to health care to every American. But I would like to see Congress really detail how we are going to pay for it.
    I did some more digging, Lerxst, and I went to the CBO Estimate itself, issued on 3/20/10.

    http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/113xx/doc...onProposal.pdf

    In Table 4 you will see the expenses. Now there are two sections. They are titled "Effects on Insurance Coverage", which is counting covered people, and "Effects on the Federal Deficit", which is in Billions of dollars. I am looking at the column for 2019, when the program is fully ramped up.

    Under "Effects on the Federal Deficit", for 2019, the Total is $172 billion.

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    They do it with car insurance.
    If you don't drive a car you don't need car insurance my left wing friend........In regards to helath insurance you have no choice....You will buy it or pay a fine........try again..........
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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    No one is deprived of healthcare. It's illegal to deny someone medical care when they need it. My comparison is pretty accurate, they are forcing everyone into buying a private service or making them pay a fine. It's unconstitutional and illegal. If the Republicans did this I'm sure the left would say they are in bed with big insurance business. Yet when Democrats do it it's to serve the people.
    if you were actually right, then there would be no need for this bill ... the one you are so opposed to having been successful
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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    It's truly breathtaking how ignorant our electorate is. Reading some of these posts, one can really appreciate just how worthless our education system is in this country...

    Watching people cheer legislation which steals wealth from some Americans to give to others is sickening enough, but what is really astonishing is observing these useful idiots essentially cheering their own demise. It would be like watching the Jews in 1945 hooraying and tickling each other on they gleefully ran into the gas chamber.

    The nation was in very deep financial trouble before this bill was ever passed--this is indisputable. Economic calamity and massive government spending in the past 2 years has catapulted the debt to an astronomical level. Social security is already upside down and Medicare is well on its way. The fact that our government assessed this situation, and then decided it would be prudent to pass another entitlement program is clear evidence that they have no intention of addressing the economic catastrophe looming over the horizon. Think about that for a moment. If you aren't concerned, then you don't understand the predicament this nation is in.

    Ron Paul has it exactly right. Is this bill going to be repealed? Of course it's going to be repealed. It's going to be repealed by a national bankruptcy.
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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    They do it with car insurance.
    Not in New Hampshire.

    Quote Originally Posted by pendulum_jaw View Post
    It would be like watching the Jews in 1945 hooraying and tickling each other on they gleefully ran into the gas chamber.
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    You guys are weird.

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    avg: 40 favor 50.5 opposed RealClearPolitics - Election Other - Obama and Democrats' Health Care Plan

    One thing for sure, a whopping majority of the country doesn't like the way the country is going.

    RealClearPolitics - Election Other - Obama and Democrats' Health Care Plan

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by pendulum_jaw View Post
    I. Think about that for a moment. If you aren't concerned, then you don't understand the predicament this nation is in.

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    Where was your concern when Bush got us into a war that will cost more than this heathcare bill?
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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    avg: 40 favor 50.5 opposed RealClearPolitics - Election Other - Obama and Democrats' Health Care Plan

    One thing for sure, a whopping majority of the country doesn't like the way the country is going.

    RealClearPolitics - Election Other - Obama and Democrats' Health Care Plan
    Whats interesting though is that they don't all oppose it for the same reasons. If you look at this poll, 13% of those opposed to it are opposed to it because it is not liberal enough (figure 21).

    http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/im...3/22/rel5a.pdf

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