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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    "FRIDAY, July 31 (HealthDay News) -- An estimated 50 million, or 42 percent, of the 120 million visits made in 2006 to U.S. hospital emergency departments were billed to the Medicaid and Medicare programs, according to a U.S. government report released Thursday.

    Uninsured patients accounted for nearly 18 percent of emergency department visits nationally, 34 percent were billed to private insurance, and 6 percent were billed to worker's compensation, military health plan administrator Tricare, and other payers, according to the latest News and Numbers from the U.S. Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality."

    ER Visits Mostly by Medicare, Medicaid Recipients
    Most visits are medicare. So? More old people have actual emergencies. That's understandable. Uninsured accounted for 18%. Almost 1 in 5. You don't see the problem with that? Or the costs involved?

    "There is a growing trend for the uninsured and undocumented (illegal) immigrants to use the ER. If they have no assets, the state will pick up the tab (assuming the state has any money). Billions of dollars are spent each year for care of undocumented aliens - one of the reasons for California's financial crisis, and often one of the reasons that bankrupt hospitals who are struggling to stay in the black. When hospitals charge $20 for a Tylenol tablet, or $32 for a "dressing" (just a band-aid) to the insured, this is often to offset the free care that must legally be provided."
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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I don't care what they say.
    You want to make a good point about why you support/oppose legislation, use facts.
    keep reading

    I'm quite tired of the 40% support, 30% oppose and 30% want an enema.
    It's tired, old and doesn't do anything to help people make good choices.
    people's choices determine who controls the houses, silly

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    The American people got ignored. Where was the transparency Obama promised? What about bipartisanship? The only thing bipartisan was the opposition to this bill. Seriously, America needs to wake up in November, many people were smacked in the face by their congressman, myself included. My district is more conservative, but we have a retiring Democrat congressman. He voted for this legislation because he had nothing to lose (he is retiring and not running again). Most of us here in Nashville didn't want this, but our congressman voted long with his party and not along with his constituents. Congress needs to be reminded that they serve US! We vote them into power, they are supposed to represent us, not cave into thug politics or outright ignore those who gave them that power. Congress needs reform more than healthcare.

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by USA-1 View Post
    Most visits are medicare. So? More old people have actual emergencies. That's understandable. Uninsured accounted for 18%. Almost 1 in 5. You don't see the problem with that? Or the costs involved?
    I do but this doesn't help that at all.

    You have to convince these people to stop going for simple things(like cold/flu), to eat right and to exercise regularly.
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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    cnn poll today

    59% oppose the pig

    http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/im...3/22/rel5a.pdf

    own it, dems

    don't blame reds

    she's all yours

    congrats!
    Actually, it's about 73% who oppose it. It's always been only a small minority who want it. Those who think it's "free"! It's going to cost us all dearly. Nobody can afford this.

    Further, private insurance is a thing of the past. It will no longer be availbable.

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    it's true

    we, the american people, were more than ignored

    we were DEFIED

    the party in power will have hell to pay

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by USA-1 View Post
    You are just plain wrong. In big city hospitals the ERs are flooded with people that do not have insurance. And preventative medicine is overwhelmingly cheaper at every level. You might want to do your homework instead of copying off your neighbors paper.
    The ERs are flooded with people who are on Medicaid/Medicare. I used to work in Emergency Medicine, the people we were forced to pick up in an ambulance for NON emergency reasons, were always on Medicaid or Medicare.

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    HOW COULD TED KENNEDY HAVE BEEN SO STUPID AS NOT TO ABLE TO FIND, IN ALL THOSE YEARS OF SEARCHING, THE SERENDIPITOUS HALF TRIL PRESIDENT PIEFACE FOUND UNDER THE LINCOLN BED ONE MORNING (july 22) LAST SUMMER?

    LOL!
    You left your cap lock on again.

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    are any of YOU serious when you tell any of US that, yes, indeed, YOU really do intend to pay for 2/3 of this thru recovering waste, fraud and abuse?

    LOL!

    that's TWO THIRDS!

    why do YOU talk about little teeny things?

    why do WE talk about the HUGE?

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    The American people got ignored. Where was the transparency Obama promised? What about bipartisanship? The only thing bipartisan was the opposition to this bill. Seriously, America needs to wake up in November, many people were smacked in the face by their congressman, myself included. My district is more conservative, but we have a retiring Democrat congressman. He voted for this legislation because he had nothing to lose (he is retiring and not running again). Most of us here in Nashville didn't want this, but our congressman voted long with his party and not along with his constituents. Congress needs to be reminded that they serve US! We vote them into power, they are supposed to represent us, not cave into thug politics or outright ignore those who gave them that power. Congress needs reform more than healthcare.
    Ignored? Actually they listened to the years of people complaining about our healthcare system.
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