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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    $695, it's cheaper than insurance.
    I honestly don't see how anyone can support that.

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    it's the president's people who feel they need to change perceptions

    the admin's new spin is wall to wall

    Next front: Selling what Congress did - Jeanne Cummings - POLITICO.com

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    Funny...the map you posted now here comes close to what you are purporting.

    For the GOP to regain the house they would have to:

    (1) Maintain every seat that they already hold (178), including to the ones that are leaning democrat at this time.

    (2) Would have to pick up all of the Democratic seats that currently lean Republican (18)

    (3) Win 22 of the 29 "toss up" seats that are currently Democrat.

    While technically possible, it is extreme unlikely that this scenario will unfold, barring a complete collapse of the economy.
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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    it's the president's people who feel they need to change perceptions

    the admin's new spin is wall to wall

    Next front: Selling what Congress did - Jeanne Cummings - POLITICO.com
    It took a 3 pm meaningless "executive order" to get Stupak and his cronies to change their mind. That's as good as chicken scratch on a napkin; it means absolutely nothing, and it can not be entered into the bill.

    Without Stupak, the bill is voted down. Obama and Pelosi must have been pulling their hair out.

    I wonder what threats were made. What do they have on him? Stupak actually voted against legislation that HE WROTE HIMSELF. lol

    Some MAJOR shenanigans ensued yesterday. And the truth will start trickling out.

    This thing is a long way from being over.

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    While technically possible, it is extreme unlikely that this scenario will unfold, barring a complete collapse of the economy.
    This bill, if it remains passed (which I bet it doesn't), will ensure that unemployment and the economy remain as is. Awful.

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    I haven't really seen many people on the left defend that portion of the bill. I also seem to recall Obama dodging that question during the debates with McCain. I personally think it's stupid.

    By the way, I thought it was just a $300 or so fine that people would be charged with.
    The idea behind this has to do with requiring insurance companies to insure those with pre-existing conditions. The theory is that without requiring insurance, what some people will do is wait till they get sick, then get insurance since they now have to be accepted. Left alone, this could cause more problems than it solved, so the requirement to have insurance was added to solve the problem. Whether there is a better way to handle the problem, I dunno, but I can't think of one offhand.
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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    Please don't threaten other forum members, even obliquely.
    It's unbecoming.
    Where is the threat? He said he would see you in line, that's not a threat.
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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    "Health care has emerged as a major issue in national debates leading up to the 2008 presidential election, with surveys finding that it ranks among the top three issues for voters, after the economy and the war in Iraq."
    Health Care as a 2008 Election Issue:*Background Brief

    Representatives doing what people voted them in office to do is historic!!!

    Gives me more hope in our system of government.
    Healthcare reform...yes; this bill, no.
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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I just started a nasty reply to this, then I read the last sentence. Even though the post did not make it, sorry for thinking bad at you incorrectly.

    If we could lock the over the top people away, we might be able to have a decent discussion. Right now it's not worth bothering.
    You can't sugar coat this bill, conservatives don't like it. To them it is not reform.
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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You can't sugar coat this bill, conservatives don't like it. To them it is not reform.
    Which has exactly what to do with what I said in the post you quoted?
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