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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    George Bush II.
    Beat me to it.

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Dude, that's a play straight out of my book. Royalties, please.
    Good luck with that.

    By the way, thank you for at least trying to have a reasoned discussion here on the bill. You are all right for a conservative and being wrong about everything.
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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Beat me to it.


    That one was too easy.
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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    how do you massively expand m and m while simultaneously cutting funds half a T?

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    George Bush II.
    You mean when he said that people can go to the emergency room for healthcare?



    Just joking....in all seriousness, I don't remember Bush bringing a heathcare reform bill to congress. It could be my memory, but I honestly don't recall it.

    I remember him talking a lot about it during the campaign against Kerry, but I don't remember him putting forth any plan to address the healthcare problem.

    If I'm wrong...I'm wrong...like I said, I don't recall any.
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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    You mean when he said that people can go to the emergency room for healthcare?



    Just joking....in all seriousness, I don't remember Bush bringing a heathcare reform bill to congress. It could be my memory, but I honestly don't recall it.

    I remember him talking a lot about it during the campaign against Kerry, but I don't remember him putting forth any plan to address the healthcare problem.

    If I'm wrong...I'm wrong...like I said, I don't recall any.
    Medicare Part D was one of the things.

    Although I disagree with that legislation.
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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    who really believes that 2/3 of the revenues cbo depends upon to pay for all this can come from recovered waste, fraud and abuse?

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Good luck with that.

    By the way, thank you for at least trying to have a reasoned discussion here on the bill. You are all right for a conservative and being wrong about everything.
    The whole thing about this is that no one should be opposed to major health care reform. It's all a matter of what we see reform as being and how we want the government to play a role in that.

    The bill, for the most part, from what I have read is a disaster waiting to be enacted. Now that's based on less than 200 pages of it being read, but it's not looking good.

    I want to see tort reform.
    I want to see grant structures for more public clinics and urgent cares to keep people out of emergency rooms.
    I want to see the establishment of health courts.
    I like the pre-existing condition reforms.
    I am frightened by the "Health Choices Commissioner" that this bill establishes.
    I am deeply concerned about the fed having real time, total access to individual bank accounts.
    I don't see a true public option and a means to pay for it.
    I don't see a plan to increase the number of doctors to keep pace with the amount of newly insured.

    There's so much wrong with this bill.

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Medicare Part D was one of the things.

    Although I disagree with that legislation.
    Just to make the point, Medicare Part D, 550 billion over ten years, no funding or cuts to pay for it in the bill.
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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    The whole thing about this is that no one should be opposed to major health care reform. It's all a matter of what we see reform as being and how we want the government to play a role in that.

    The bill, for the most part, from what I have read is a disaster waiting to be enacted. Now that's based on less than 200 pages of it being read, but it's not looking good.

    I want to see tort reform.
    I want to see grant structures for more public clinics and urgent cares to keep people out of emergency rooms.
    I want to see the establishment of health courts.
    I like the pre-existing condition reforms.
    I am frightened by the "Health Choices Commissioner" that this bill establishes.
    I am deeply concerned about the fed having real time, total access to individual bank accounts.
    I don't see a true public option and a means to pay for it.
    I don't see a plan to increase the number of doctors to keep pace with the amount of newly insured.

    There's so much wrong with this bill.

    Tort reform is good...but is so overhyped. It is a great talking point and sounds good, but the reality is...it will have very little impact at all on the costs of healthcare.

    I like the ideas of grants for public clinics and urgent cares

    You don't see a true public option because there isn't one. One of the best parts of the bill was taken out through scare tactics despite the fact that the overwhelming majority of people in the United States think it is a good idea.


    As for the # of doctors....I don't know the numbers...but I think there will always be an incentive for people to go to law school. Is there a doctor shortage in this country? I'm not aware of one.
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