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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    how are you gonna find and recover half a T in waste, fraud and abuse?

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Hyper-partisan talk like that seems to contradict your 'moderate' political stance.
    I don't know what is immoderate or hyper-partisan about what I wrote. Care to point it out? I was observing that reconciliation will be the law of the land, not promoting it. This bill is a turd.

    but repealing a bill is a complicated manner, both procedurally and politically... There is language in the bill that makes certain things mandatory for a period of 10 years... it would have to be such a failure... We're talking prohibition-type failure...
    We'll see. The cost was hidden from us and all the tricks were used. It costs $200 billion a year. I agree that "repealing a bill is a complicated manner, both procedurally and politically".

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    how is forcing an individual to buy a product he can't afford any kind of expression of universalism?

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    I think they are largely referring to the fact that according to the polls, a majority of the public doesn't support this bill. However, I think it's kind of cherry picking considering that many on the right had the attitude that polls and the public opinion doesn't matter when Bush was making controversial decisions. Both sides are hypocritical.
    Well, not exactly. Polls are still irrelevant when it comes to what is right, wrong, and flat out unconstitutional. The right used polls because the morons in D.C. seem to only care about their careers, so using the polling seemed to be the only thing they would understand. Apparantly they don't even understand that. Anyway, that would be why the polling was so heavily cited.
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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    how did the public option turn into this perverse mandate upon individuals to go buy PRIVATE INSURANCE at $500 a month?

    how are people gonna come up with that kinda money IN TIMES LIKE THESE?

    not so simple as a presidential pen stroke

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Well, not exactly. Polls are still irrelevant when it comes to what is right, wrong, and flat out unconstitutional. The right used polls because the morons in D.C. seem to only care about their careers, so using the polling seemed to be the only thing they would understand. Apparantly they don't even understand that. Anyway, that would be why the polling was so heavily cited.
    That is unfortunately very true.

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Well, not exactly. Polls are still irrelevant when it comes to what is right, wrong, and flat out unconstitutional. The right used polls because the morons in D.C. seem to only care about their careers, so using the polling seemed to be the only thing they would understand. Apparantly they don't even understand that. Anyway, that would be why the polling was so heavily cited.
    Exactly.

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    how did the public option turn into this perverse mandate upon individuals to go buy PRIVATE INSURANCE at $500 a month?

    how are people gonna come up with that kinda money IN TIMES LIKE THESE?

    not so simple as a presidential pen stroke
    Uh, if you can't afford it, the government will buy some or all of it for you. Read the bill.

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    how did the public option turn into this perverse mandate upon individuals to go buy PRIVATE INSURANCE at $500 a month?

    how are people gonna come up with that kinda money IN TIMES LIKE THESE?

    not so simple as a presidential pen stroke
    But wait...you told me health care was dead. You told me that dozens of times. So there is nothing to worry about, right?
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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Uh, if you can't afford it, the government will buy some or all of it for you. Read the bill.
    Read the bill? Why? If they did that they wouldn't have anything to beotch about.
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