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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    So in further analysis of this bill, it appears it does the exact opposite of what's needed to actually help reform healthcare and bring costs down.

    Instead of moving us away from employer based insurance, it actually REQUIRES it.

    Instead of moving us away from massive insurance industries altogether, (the ones the bill supporters kept claiming over and over again were "evil"), it actually FORCES everyone to buy one of those evil policies from the devils themselves.

    Instead of making the government LESS involved, it makes it MORE involved.

    Instead of fixing Medicaid, it just dumps millions more recipients into an already failing system full of fraud and financial black holes.

    It does nothing to address Tort reform.

    Wow. Nicely done. Do everything you can to make the situation WORSE and then claim you're only doing it to "help" us.

    I'm just absolutely baffled how anyone with a brain can think any of this is a good thing for anyone.



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    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    No, it doesn't. Many people who do not have insurance CAN afford it. They CHOOSE not to. (like myself)
    How un-American of you! I bet you're a bigot and a racist, too. Please report to the nearest government reeducation center at once.

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    There was a reason the ins co's support this.
    Hell yes. I'd love it if I could get the Federal government to pass a law requiring everyone to buy from my business.

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by ConservaBill View Post
    I would say MOST that oppose the Bill understand completely as well they have a basic grasp of the Constitution...

    Those that favored it... NEITHER!
    Under the Bush Administration, those 8 straight years, our Constitution was void and abused to push conservative agenda's and policies. Few said anything.


    How dare you state that anything unproven, unlike the Bush Administration succession of voiding our Constitution for 8 straight years, from the Obama Administration needs to be criticized and seen unlawful?
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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    OK, here's a question I'd like answered.

    My wife and I both work. We use my work's healthcare plan. Is she going to be required to buy from HER workplace now or face a fine?

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    I'm an insurance agent in L&H sales and am completely against this bill, even though it could initially bring me 100%+ increases in business, that should tell the supporters everything they need to know.
    No, that should tell your employer something. heheh

    But yeah, this bill is nothing more than a play towards the insurance companies. It will do nothing to benefit the People.
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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by chosendudenyc View Post
    Under the Bush Administration, those 8 straight years, our Constitution was void and abused to push conservative agenda's and policies. Few said anything.


    How dare you state that anything unproven, unlike the Bush Administration succession of voiding our Constitution for 8 straight years, from the Obama Administration needs to be criticized and seen unlawful?
    Oh good gawd, here we go.

    Name the bill Bush passed that was not bi-partisan. Thank you.

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by ScottD View Post
    We're 18th in a scale of how Democratic a country is, beaten by many European countries which are much more socialist then us.

    http://a330.g.akamai.net/7/330/25828...dex%202008.pdf
    Oh, we're catching up.

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by chosendudenyc View Post
    If you can afford health insurance, why not have it?
    **** you, that's why! Why should you tell me what to do with my money? Why should you force me to play your game? If I could afford the rip off which is health insurance, I still don't need it. There is a real problem, the real problem is that America pays more for heath care and has the least access to it than any other industrialized country out there. This bill doesn't address the problem, it merely forces me to play in a corrupt game. Thanks for spending my money for me, but I think I knew better how to use it.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    If conservative Republicans can take back the House/Senate in November I have a terriffic payback idea, eliminate the rules allowing for the vestment after 5 years so that when the Dems who voted for this turd are kicked out they have to follow their own rules.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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