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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    I was moving between jobs for 10 years. IT industry. I have decided I am living here and I'll work what's available. I have much greater peace of mind.

    I want a pro-business environment. I am all for new hire tax breaks, apprenticeships, school co-ops, tax breaks for installations, whatever it takes to bring business around.

    I really am damned if I vote Democratic, who are not pro-business, and damned if I don't voting Republican because of social conservatives. Perhaps you are right that it is easy to overcome social conservative law, but that would require progressives get into power and pass their economic BS.

    I hope that my party, the Whigs, gains ground since I am that balance. I think many independents are too.
    Obviously, if I have a choice other than the social conservatives or the libtards, I will vote for that option. I would have loved if the Libertarian party had an *actual* libertarian running for office against Obama. I would have voted for them. But alas, they did not.

    I feel your pain in not having a true representative to vote for.

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Congratulations President Obama. I'm happy this bill passed.

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by Toothpicvic View Post
    Read up on James Madison's "Tyranny of the Majority" viewpoints?
    Agreed, majority rule can also be bad but that doesn't change the fact that this minority driven legislation isn't also bad.


    I don't. If anyone has a problem with the bill, then they have themselves to thank for voting the congressional officials who voted in favor of it into office
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    They were voted in to reduce healthcare costs and not necessarily to create UHC or NHC.

    I never heard any alternative plans from the right, just cries of "socialism", "death panels", "statism", "elitism" etc etc etc. If there were any alternate proposals, then they got lost in between all of the fearmongering.
    TORT reform has been on the congressional agenda for some time now. The left has been blocking that presumeably from all the $$ the Dems get from lawyers. I think I heard Texas is having success with their state run TORT reform.

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by Eskimo View Post
    TORT reform has been on the congressional agenda for some time now. The left has been blocking that presumeably from all the $$ the Dems get from lawyers. I think I heard Texas is having success with their state run TORT reform.
    "Tort reform" amounts to less than 1% of the costs of healthcare. You can have all the reform you want and it isn't going to have any effect on healthcare costs. It is nothing more than a GOP strawman to make them look like they have an idea.
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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    "Tort reform" amounts to less than 1% of the costs of healthcare. You can have all the reform you want and it isn't going to have any effect on healthcare costs. It is nothing more than a GOP strawman to make them look like they have an idea.
    True, but it makes a good sound bite. And the fact that where tort reform has been passed, the results have mirrored that reality don't stop or hinder the good sound bite effect such language has. We live in a quick fix world, and all a conman has to do is repeat a sound bite long enough, and a good number of people will accept the lie.

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    "Tort reform" amounts to less than 1% of the costs of healthcare. You can have all the reform you want and it isn't going to have any effect on healthcare costs. It is nothing more than a GOP strawman to make them look like they have an idea.



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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    "Tort reform" amounts to less than 1% of the costs of healthcare. You can have all the reform you want and it isn't going to have any effect on healthcare costs. It is nothing more than a GOP strawman to make them look like they have an idea.
    LOL

    Total BS.

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    "Tort reform" amounts to less than 1% of the costs of healthcare. You can have all the reform you want and it isn't going to have any effect on healthcare costs. It is nothing more than a GOP strawman to make them look like they have an idea.
    And yet the CBO says tort reform would save $54 billion

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    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    And yet the CBO says tort reform would save $54 billion
    We like the CBO now?

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

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