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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Those 30 million already see doctors... when it is absolutely necessary. They use the emergency room and then, don't pay.
    This may be true but dont you think that if people are now covered that alot wont go alot more frequently?

    Most people will not go to the ER for a cold but many will go to the doctors office. I suspect doctors will have alot more business once people are covered.

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    WWI and WWII. Korea and 'Nam were unnecessary, as was "The War on Drugs".

    Edit- I have no idea how this double posted.
    Couldn't agree more.
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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    That's the moral of this "story."

    Liberals/Democrats forget that Republicans will take control again, they will screw with this just as bad as Democrats have and not in ways that will make them happy.

    To the supporters, congratulations.
    You just opened a new can of worms that both parties can mess with and at your expense.
    The can of worms was opened long before the Obama administration.
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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    The can of worms was opened long before the Obama administration.
    True but not to this level.

    It sets a new precedent.
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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    Well you make it not suck to work in the field. Like dealing with greedy ambulance chasers. That will probably do the most good.
    FYI, there is no tort reform in the bill.

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    True but not to this level.

    It sets a new precedent.
    I am old enough to remember the Medicare debate. It was at least this bad.
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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    Yeah I know, and that is what annoys me the most. The thing that would have probably done the most good isn't even in the bloody bill.

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Just answer this Hazel,

    How are you going to add 30 million people to healthcare and not hire a single doctor when we are already in a crisis for doctors?
    For payments related to medicare:

    Provide a 10% bonus payment to primary care physicians and to general surgeons practicing in health professional shortage areas, from 2011 through 2015.

    Also in the bill:

    Increase the number of Graduate Medical Education (GME) training positions by redistributing currently unused slots, with priorities given to primary care and general surgery and to states with the lowest resident physician-to-population ratios (effective July 1, 2011); increase flexibility in laws
    and regulations that govern GME funding to promote training in outpatient settings (effective July 1, 2010); and ensure the availability of residency programs in rural and underserved areas. Establish Teaching Health Centers, defined as community based, ambulatory patient care centers, including federally qualified health centers and other federally-funded health centers
    that are eligible for Medicare payments for the expenses associated with operating primary care residency programs. (Initial appropriation in fiscal year 2010)

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Just answer this Hazel,

    How are you going to add 30 million people to healthcare and not hire a single doctor when we are already in a crisis for doctors?
    Your question is based on a partisan talking point, one not vaguely true -- you only reveal a complete lack of understanding for the complexity of the issues and the approach taken in the bill...

    You add 30 mil by (1)requiring everyone to have some minimum insurance while (2)changing certain conditions/rules to make the market more completive in pricing and service.

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I am old enough to remember the Medicare debate. It was at least this bad.
    I understand, I'm talking about the level of manipulation.

    It has increased a lot now.
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