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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    We had a cool plan but it was full of good ideas and cooperation.
    It would have never worked.
    Remember that plan we had? I was telling it to one of my libertarian friends, and he said the same thing you did. I should be President.

    Unfortunately, you're right. It was intelligent, bipartisan, and no one would have listened.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    There is nothing noble about forcing your neighbor to pay for others wellbeing.
    I can play "twist the words" as well. Use of tax dollars to provide health care to our citizens is very noble cause. There is nothing noble about invading a nation that is not a threat to the U.S. and using our tax dollars to distribute death and destruction amongst a population who didn't want us there.

    Do you see how this works?

    I care about others as well, but when I can give....I choose to do so, I don't want it forcible taken from me for things that are not constitutional.
    And how do you feel about your taxpayer dollars being used to sustain an occupation of a foreign country, for which there is no measurable ROI? Because I've been here a long, long time and I just don't recall you getting all up in a fuss over that forcible taking of your money.

    So would you agree that you are okay with wasteful use of your tax dollar when the agenda suits your personal fancy?

    This health bill is crap.
    This bill may in fact be crap, I don't know. The idea behind it is very worthy in my opinion.
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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Remember that plan we had? I was telling it to one of my libertarian friends, and he said the same thing you did. I should be President.

    Unfortunately, you're right. It was intelligent, bipartisan, and no one would have listened.
    I would vote for you.
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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    I disagree Cap. Everything I've seen so far is the perfect plan to screw people, and it will hurt the market, I am going on record as saying this is an economy killer.. For every one good thing this bill might accomplish, this puts us about five to ten steps back from where we need to be in reducing costs.
    I don't agree, but I want to see the fine print before committing to that. My guess is that the increased costs may be offset by the costs of the uninsured. Not sure about that. It may be that only time will tell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by aaronssongs View Post
    Please, illustrate, link or document how the bill or the Dems are rewarding insurance companies, who, by and large were dead set against the bill, in any form. If the bill were so rewarding to insurance companies, why were they dead against it? I patiently await your response.
    Here is an article from the liberal Huffington post explaining how insurance companies support this David Dayen: The "Insurance Companies Support Health Care Reform" Gambit
    Here is also polling results showing that the majority of America does not want this bill.
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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    I would vote for you.
    That's 4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    They are going to get roughly 30 million new customers.

    How could they not be happy?
    Huge cuts to medicare advantage and the part d subsidy.

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by steve_in_mich View Post
    Hmm, you do realize that Medicare is unsustainable, right?

    Private insurance largely subsidizes Medicare.

    It may take a while, but we'll find that this is more of the same.


    Not sustainable? It has been in place since July 28, 1965 and it’s not sustainable? Private insurance companies subsidize Medicare!! Surely you jest? Medicare administrative costs are in the 2 percent range, while private insurance companies’ administrative costs is in the 8.9 percent range.
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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    Not sustainable? It has been in place since July 28, 1965 and it’s not sustainable? Private insurance companies subsidize Medicare!! Surely you jest? Medicare administrative costs are in the 2 percent range, while private insurance companies’ administrative costs is in the 8.9 percent range.
    Yeah donc don't you know...one day...ONE DAY...it will all come crashing down and this country will be a dust bowl in a depression all over again. You'll see...one day.
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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by drz-400 View Post
    Huge cuts to medicare advantage and the part d subsidy.
    Have trust in me, those cuts will vaporize when republicans get control.
    That is their #1 pander group.
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